The facts only the facts Photo is BO205 own by De Sibenthal family for 50 years old and with the same Reg Number Book Hartog said that (as location of car ws lost,) Kuttner have bought parts of it in the *70* 2016 Today court action against Hartog for this lie or error, error if it s only a mistake to have trusted Sir Kuttner or lie if in front of all the evidences, he continue to promote the untrue story Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
BO208, photos blue car is with italian owner for 40 years, Again as car location was unknown, Mastroianni and Kuttner (remember Mastroianni as he always appear with Kuttner ) was the american owners and car sold to Tod Croady (2016) who send the parts to Bob Smith Coachworks Bob and Tod refuse to show the parts that they have in hands but, my expert call Bob who explain to him that he is looking to find a good Iso to copy it and of course refuse to show him anythings Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
BO224, again a renumbered car from a later number supposed 313 Photos are from construction of this car Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
BO224 How many idiots will believe that a collector who own a proper Bizzarrini 5300 will change the chassis number 313 of his car to go racing with number BO224 ? The water/vodka drinkers may be Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Now we have IA30226 with again Mastroianni and Kuttner as owners (second time ) Hartog explain to us that Kuttner told him 226 is not 208, as he sold it to Merrit in combination of fews parts of 208 that he still owned at this time, car 208 who will reapear later again as a project hydden car sold to Croady I known, when you read it, you are lost, me too Image Unavailable, Please Login
Here famous BO227 Kuttner fiberglass replica sold o his good friend (???) Wolfy, big Maserati collector in Germany, again as car location was unknown, Mr Magic Kuttner put a fake chassis number on it and sold it to Europe. Car was then send to the only real expert in the world and a 4 pages report convince Wolfy that it was better to get ride of it ASAP. Again, Hartog made the promotion inside his book. Today, car is in Switzerland and someone want to believe in the Kuttner story and try to finish the construction but the expert in Italy refuse to sell him parts Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
The BO228 scam, the Ponsacco body shop build it and sold it to Holland as a replica to be raced, was not supposed to carry a lost chassis number, and Hartog was not supposed to put it inside his book as real and the customer in Africa was not supposed to sue Jack Hoobs de Hartog for fraud. It s good to known that Hartog has offer this car to Mark Moshayedi for 450 000 Euro when Mr Moshayedi was spending more than double to buy BO213. Of course, Mr Moshayedi refuse. THen after Hartog badmouth the good cars of Moshayedi Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
BO228 complet details, the police search for Hartog for interview ! Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
OK, let s follow the story, Mr Hartog told us that car was 304 renumbered 228, then let s see what Mr Magic Hartog write in his book about 304 ... Mr Copperfield Hartog write that car 304 was scrapped.... Well, I need your help to understand the way he think, 304 was destroy, then reborn as 228 with a magic lotion ? I want to buy this magic lotion, where I can find it , as I want to reborn as a 20 years old young man. MR Hartog should stop drinking the water that is inside the vodka bottle, as it s not water but vodka. Orange Photos are the correct 304 Bizz Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
IA30235, Yellow photos is with Negri in Italy, fiberglass kit car supposed to be raced, then number 235 appear in Hartog book with a supposed alloy body. The actual owner is a close friend of Hartog ? Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Today 235, plastic body , now in the futur, a new owner will put a alloy body to match the hallucination of the famous Jack Hoobs de Hartog Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
IA30309, Hartog claim that Kuttner told him that he renumbered this car as 309 because he have papers for it ?????? And Kuttner dont remember the original number ??? My question, the place of Kuttner/Hartog is in jail or hospital ? Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Now a second Bizz 5300 chassis 309 also owned by Kuttner, who is not really afraid to declare it. How lucky is this man to be owner of 2 cars with same chassis number ? And promotion made by Hartog book Now for a normal man, how it s possible that Kuttner declare to have renumbered Bizzarrini 5300 ? In my small brain, you change the identity of a stolen car ! Not a correct one Image Unavailable, Please Login
Now IA30327 and IA30328, why make a replica when you can do two at the same time, and why not choose 2 frame number in sequence, no one will see, everyone is beast. And best of all, you need a book to swallow all this nonsense Image Unavailable, Please Login
BA4102, own by Kuttner and Chris Lackner have said that car dont look RIGHT....lol How it s possible, may be it s because he built it himself Car was restore by Diomante who completely rebuilt the car by changing the complet body !! Photos are at Diomante shop Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Now, BA4106 sold to Australia and again Hartog claim that Kuttner told him thet he renumbered the car as BA4106 but dont remember the original number. Kuttner dont have good memory for number but he remember that he renumbered theses cars ! The essential question, why Hartog publish theses ? Why Hartog publishes its malfeasance, lies, deceit, Oliver Kuttner scams? What is Hartog interest to publish these dishonest nonsense? The facts are overwhelming for these two individuals. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
BA4107, Olczyk was also a victim of Kuttner as 20 years ago, he knew nothing and trust Kuttner, he lost money and get ride of this kit car ASAP. Do we need more facts ? Image Unavailable, Please Login
Now the famous P538 with 4 date of birth from Jack Hoobs de Hartog Why 1 good date, when you can give then 3 or 4..be generous..lol 1 Declaration Hartog 2009 with date *70* 2 Declaration 2013 ? with date *80* from his book 3 Declaration for invoice 2009 with construction of 2 cars And finally the text from RM auction with the date of *60* RM CATALOGUE This sensationally restored P538 is believed to be the first of three such cars originally built by Bizzarrini himself in the late 1960s, following the run of seven original cars he built for Le Mans competition. Discovered in France in the early 1990s, this car was purchased by Roger Hurst, of Kent, United Kingdom, who re-sold it in 1995 to the consignor, the principal founder of the Chequered Flag International (one of the niches oldest active international dealers of fine motor cars). Knowing what a treasure he had located, the consignor domiciled the car for nearly 20 years, keeping it out of the sight and knowledge of the growing Bizzarrini niche. In 2009, in an attempt to clarify the cars early history, the consignor conferred with Bizzarrini expert Jack Koobs de Hartog to assess the P538, which was soon to undergo restoration. Carefully inspecting the frame and build technique, the marque specialist concluded that the car exhibited the welding, materials, and overall construction used on the later cars built by Bizzarrini himself. Mr. Koobs took several photographs of the unrestored chassis, body, and parts and presented them to Mr. Bizzarrini for his opinion. The aging engineer quickly identified the hallmarks of his handiwork and concluded he had built the frame in the late 1960s and that his wife Rosanna had constructed the fabulous bodywork to Giugiaros original design. With this claim of authenticity at his back, the consignor proceeded with a full restoration to period specifications, totaling approximately $250,000 in invoices. This work included sourcing a period-correct 5.3-liter Corvette engine and rebuilding it to proper specifications with period heads, a steel crank, rods, and forged alloy pistons. The heads have been ported and capped to run on unleaded fuel. The external engine features are also of period appearance, including the alloy valve covers, water pump, pulleys, alternator, and four 45 DCOE Weber carburetors. The engine has been dynamically balanced, tuned, and properly run in, and it is highly presentable. The gearbox is a brand new ZF Synchroma 5DS-25 five-speed unit, number 006140. Additional work included reupholstering the seats with dark red leather and repainting the exquisite body in a lovely shade of metallic blue. Photos is parts found somewhere in late *90* may be or early *2000* Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Maybe Moshayedi is getting smarter.Good for him. He bought a few cars in the past where he was told had been told original with history but are either a recreation or invented history. Finally he does his due diligence. Caveat emptor with expensive rare toys. Just because a book says a car is something get more info and do your homework.
i agree with you, but here we face à criminal organisation who use à Book to promote air cars, and both are complice. How many cars Kuttner have build iN USA ? How many cars Hartog have promote with the knownledge that the cars Was incorrect ? It s dont happen once, It happens more than 10 times. It s not a mistake, It s a plan to sell iN USA replicas with lost numbers. It s a plan to fool the américain collectors. Here we just demonstrate with facts the reality Of theirs actions. Now if you want to invite them both for dinner, It s your choice and your right. Now when i see Mike Gullett making the promotion Of Jack Hoobs de Hartog as a expert Of Bizzarrinis, we Can all asking the same question..... WHy hé do it or did hé is a complice Also ?
Looks like DeTomaso Sport and P70 all over again to me ! Write a book sell a legend to promote a car ! Not much money in the book but the car makes the profit
In his previous book, Hartog explain to us that car vin 300 was (fiberglass??? LOL), then should be a BA4 with 4 independants suspensions, and after that De Sibenthal bought the car (on the photos of the accident, you clearly see the alloy body) Hartog said that car is alloy by Diomante ? and no more BA4 !!! I known it s funny, His book is used to light a wood fire and cook sausages. But it damage the value of theses cars if the reader have a small knownledge. And Hartog use his book as vengence as De Sibenthal refuse to talk to him and even talk about a 7 liter engine ! Why not a 10 liters 12 cyl ? I really advise to Mr Hartog to go in holidays for a long time, very long time, but it s not possible as the 21 October 2016 , Mr Hartog need to go to court as he is beeing sue for all his lies, nonsens etc Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Forbidden to laugh by what follows So here is our famous expert Hartog (who can not tell the difference between vodka and water), and do not know the difference between alloy and fiberglass Here 2 cars with differents story, 2 body material different, alloy and fiberglass, but both cars with same chassis number 282 BUT MORE IMPORTANT, the 2 cars have the same chain of owners Mr Gerd Roder and Helmut Haupt and same years. Then I leave to you only one question, is it possible that 2 differents cars exist (with same chassis number ) and was owned in the same time by 2 differents people ? If you drink vodka, please dont answer Then read the description of fiberglass car blue, Was in USA, in pieces ? 2009 in USA Ring the bell ? who is the specialist to build fiberglass Bizzarrini in USA ? Forget the comedy club, forget the movie comedy, just read ferrarichat.com P.S Someone use a european number to built a replica but no chance this time, in Italy a mistake was made with the number it have a 1 before 282, and you need of course somebody to promote your honest business (Forbidden to laugh ) Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login