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Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio - Test Comparison

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  1. that boy asad

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    #1 that boy asad, Dec 30, 2016
    Car & Driver Results​

    2017 Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio

    Power: 505 hp @ 6500 rpm
    Torque: 443 lb-ft @ 2500 rpm

    Wheelbase: 111.0 in
    Length: 182.6 in
    Width: 73.7 in Height: 56.1 in
    Passenger volume: 94 cu ft
    Cargo volume: 13 cu ft
    Curb weight: 3822 lb

    Zero to 60 mph: 3.6 sec
    Zero to 100 mph: 8.1 sec
    Zero to 130 mph: 13.8 sec
    Zero to 150 mph: 19.9 sec
    Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.2 sec
    Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.5 sec
    Top gear, 50-70 mph: 2.8 sec
    Standing ¼-mile: 11.9 sec @ 121 mph
    Top speed (mfr's est): 191 mph
    Braking, 70-0 mph: 143 ft
    Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 1.00 g
    Fuel Economy, EPA combined/city/highway driving: 20/17/24 mpg - C/D observed: 18 mpg


    2016 BMW M3 DCT Competition Package

    Power: 444 hp @ 7000 rpm
    Torque: 406 lb-ft @ 1850 rpm

    Wheelbase: 110.7 in
    Length: 184.5 in
    Width: 73.9 in Height: 56.3 in
    Passenger volume: 96 cu ft
    Cargo volume: 17 cu ft
    Curb weight: 3651 lb

    Zero to 60 mph: 4.0 sec
    Zero to 100 mph: 8.6 sec
    Zero to 130 mph: 14.6 sec
    Zero to 150 mph: 21.1 sec
    Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.6 sec
    Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.2 sec
    Top gear, 50-70 mph: 2.8 sec
    Standing ¼-mile: 12.2 sec @ 120 mph
    Top speed (governor limited): 163 mph
    Braking, 70-0 mph: 146 ft
    Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.98 g
    Fuel Economy, EPA city/highway driving: 17/24 mpg - C/D observed: 18 mpg


    2016 Cadillac ATS-V Sedan Automatic

    Power: 464 hp @ 5850 rpm
    Torque: 445 lb-ft @ 3500 rpm

    Wheelbase: 109.3 in
    Length: 184.0 in
    Width: 71.3 in Height: 55.7 in
    Passenger volume: 84 cu ft
    Cargo volume: 10 cu ft
    Curb weight: 3800 lb

    Zero to 60 mph: 3.9 sec
    Zero to 100 mph: 8.4 sec
    Zero to 130 mph: 13.9 sec
    Zero to 150 mph: 19.8 sec
    Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.7 sec
    Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.4 sec
    Top gear, 50-70 mph: 3.2 sec
    Standing ¼-mile: 12.1 sec @ 122 mph
    Top speed (drag limited, mfr's claim): 185 mph
    Braking, 70-0 mph: 154 ft
    Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 1.02 g
    Fuel Economy, EPA city/highway: 16/24 mpg - C/D observed: 17 mpg


    2015 Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat Automatic

    Power: 707 hp @ 6000 rpm[MENTION][/MENTION]
    Torque: 650 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm

    Wheelbase: 120.4 in
    Length: 200.8 in
    Width: 75.0 in Height: 58.3 in
    Curb weight: 4592 lb

    Zero to 60 mph: 3.4 sec
    Zero to 100 mph: 7.2 sec
    Zero to 130 mph: 11.7 sec
    Zero to 170 mph: 23.1 sec
    Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 3.7 sec
    Top gear, 30-50 mph: 1.7 sec
    Top gear, 50-70 mph: 2.3 sec
    Standing ¼-mile: 11.4 sec @ 128 mph
    Top speed (drag ltd, mfr's claim): 204 mph
    Braking, 70-0 mph: 153 ft
    Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.94 g
    Fuel Economy, EPA city/highway driving: 13/22 mpg - C/D observed: 13 mpg


    2015 Mercedes-AMG C63 S Sedan

    Power: 503 hp @ 6250 rpm
    Torque: 516 lb-ft @ 1750 rpm

    Wheelbase: 111.8 in
    Length: 187.2 in
    Width: 72.4 in Height: 56.1 in
    Passenger volume: 95 cu ft
    Cargo volume: 13 cu ft
    Curb weight: 3939 lb

    Zero to 60 mph: 3.9 sec
    Zero to 100 mph: 9.1 sec
    Zero to 130 mph: 15.9 sec
    Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.3 sec
    Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.4 sec
    Top gear, 50-70 mph: 2.8 sec
    Standing ¼-mile: 12.2 sec @ 116 mph
    Top speed (governor limited, mfr's claim): 180 mph
    Braking, 70-0 mph: 147 ft
    Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.98 g
    Fuel Economy, EPA city/highway: 18/25 mpg - C/D observed: 17 mpg


    2017 Mercedes Benz AMG C63 S Coupe

    Power: 503 hp @ 6200 rpm
    Torque: 516 lb-ft @ 1750 rpm

    Wheelbase: 111.8 in
    Length: 187.0 in
    Width: 73.9 in Height: 55.2 in
    Passenger volume: 86 cu ft
    Cargo volume: 11 cu ft
    Curb weight: 4102 lb

    Zero to 60 mph: 3.8 sec
    Zero to 100 mph: 8.3 sec
    Zero to 130 mph: 14.0 sec
    Zero to 150 mph: 19.6 sec
    Zero to 170 mph: 29.7 sec
    Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.3 sec
    Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.3 sec
    Top gear, 50-70 mph: 2.6 sec
    Standing ¼-mile: 12.0 sec @ 121 mph
    Top speed (governor limited, mfr's claim): 180 mph
    Braking, 70-0 mph: 151 ft
    Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.98 g
    Fuel Economy, EPA city/highway driving: 17/23 mpg - C/D observed: 16 mpg


    2016 Lexus GS F

    Power: 467 hp @ 7100 rpm
    Torque: 389 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm

    Wheelbase: 112.2 in
    Length: 193.5 in
    Width: 72.6 in Height: 56.7 in
    Passenger volume: 92 cu ft
    Cargo volume: 14 cu ft
    Curb weight: 4128 lb

    Zero to 60 mph: 4.4 sec
    Zero to 100 mph: 10.3 sec
    Zero to 130 mph: 17.5 sec
    Zero to 150 mph: 25.2 sec
    Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.7 sec
    Top gear, 30-50 mph: 3.5 sec
    Top gear, 50-70 mph: 3.2 sec
    Standing ¼-mile: 12.9 sec @ 113 mph
    Top speed (governor limited, mfr's est): 168 mph
    Braking, 70-0 mph: 160 ft
    Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.93 g
    Fuel Economy, EPA city/highway driving: 16/24 mpg - C/D observed: 19 mpg
     
  2. dave_fonz_164

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    #2 dave_fonz_164, Dec 30, 2016
    Seriously impressive....alfa is back
     
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    #3 F1tommy, Dec 30, 2016
    Very good Alfa Romeo but still 3800lbs with fluids. ATS had a 1.2 G on road holding. The Germans better watch out because the Italians and Americans are coming :)
     
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    #4 Rags747, Dec 30, 2016
    M3 seems a little bigger but weighs less, how so?
     
  5. TheMayor

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    #5 TheMayor, Dec 30, 2016
    0-60 in 3.6 seconds is pretty remarkable.

    Imagine when you mess with the chip!
     
  6. that boy asad

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    #6 that boy asad, Dec 31, 2016
    The test car they had did not have the Carbon Ceramic Brakes and the Sparco Carbon Fiber Seats
     
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    #9 that boy asad, Dec 31, 2016
    I should have added in my original post, the Giulia Quadrifoglio tested is without the Carbon Ceramic Brakes and Sparco Carbon Fiber Seats.

    Although Top Gear and Motor Trend have mentioned the weight of the car being at 3,373 lbs
     
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    #10 that boy asad, Dec 31, 2016
    I know this might be irrelevant, but I just sold my 2012 Lexus IS F to obtain the Giulia Quadrifoglio. So I figured I would go ahead and add a comparison as well

    2011 Lexus IS F

    Power: 416 hp @ 6600 rpm
    Torque: 371 lb-ft @ 5200 rpm

    Wheelbase: 107.5 in
    Length: 183.5 in
    Width: 71.5 in Height: 55.7 in
    Curb weight: 3839 lb

    Zero to 60 mph: 4.7 sec
    Zero to 100 mph: 11.0 sec
    Zero to 150 mph: 28.2 sec
    Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 5.1 sec
    Standing ¼-mile: 13.1 sec @ 110 mph
    Top speed (governor limited): 169 mph
    Braking, 70-0 mph: 159 ft
    Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.90 g
    Fuel Economy, EPA city/highway: 16/23 mpg - C/D observed: 18 mpg
     
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    #11 classic308, Dec 31, 2016
    Return of the King. Alfa Romeo, the original sports sedan.....if it's reliable then they have a grand slam on their hands.
     
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    #12 Jo Sta7, Jan 3, 2017
    amazing stuff. I cannot wait to test drive one.
     
  13. TheMayor

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    #13 TheMayor, Jan 3, 2017
    Agree on both accounts.

    Alfa was making sport sedans before BMW came out with the 2002. What BMW did was take the idea and make it reliable.

    One can only hope.
     
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    #14 95spiderman, Jan 3, 2017
    That is a stellar review! Good for you, alfa

    Would love to compare it to m4 with dct. Cant imagine how the alfa slushbox can hold up to that. Lack of sunroof is another issue
     
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    #15 ChalStrad, Jan 4, 2017
    The software on the ZF box is awesome. The sunroof? Bahhh, the roof is all carbon and that is much cooler...
     
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    #16 staatsof, Jan 4, 2017
    The car may be great, couldn't really hear it, but those two? Blah

    Has Harry Metcalfe done an extended review of this beastie yet?

    Well no but EVO did this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RFBx8lMLIE
     
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    #17 classic308, Jan 4, 2017
    Yep, growing up in queens I'd have a gentleman park his light blue bmw 2002tii (kugelfischer mechanical injection, bmw's answer to spica!) right in front of my house. Loved that car, although it did have rust issues...

    lets hope the Giulia is reliable.....Alfa then needs a coupe and spider....
     
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    #18 F1tommy, Jan 4, 2017
    I loved my BMW 3.0 CSI, although a heavy car and never really liked the boxy 2002. When parked next to a Giulia GTV the 2002 looks like a packing crate with windows :)

    BMW will have to step it up to beat the Giulia Quadrifoglio V6 Turbo's. From what I have seen the quality is there and the car is as fast as hell. I hope the 4 turbo Veloce with 350 HP is almost as good.
     
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    #19 Diablo60, Jan 4, 2017
    it would be nice make a comparision between manual and automatic gear in time progression as 80-200 kmh, 80-250kmh to see how much the automatic is faster than manual.
    Autobild has just tested with auto.
     
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    #20 dave_fonz_164, Jan 4, 2017
    Optimistically speaking, the timing for Alfa couldn't be better as BMW have seem to lost that magic touch that made them so popular. Having owned an e46 and driven the recent crop of cars, you can only be dissapointed.

    Global sales are down and won't get better as Mercedes and Audi are pumping out more desirable products.

    Add to this the reinvention at Volvo and Jaguar and it will become increasingly difficult for BMW to dominate as it once did. They've literally been giving away cars at cost for years now.

    Alfa more than ever represents that niche boutique drivers car. A simple yet fun take on the sports sedan.

    In terms of reliability, my guess is they will be similar if not better to the recent crop of Maseratis......certainly not a Lexus but good enough. Even Volvo's XC90 had many youth related gremlins.
     
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    #21 TheMayor, Jan 4, 2017
    I have to agree with you there. I've been car shopping lately and the BMW magic seems muted. I think the styling has gone so bland it's hard to get excited about it.

    BUT ---- you go into a BMW dealer and you're impressed. You go into a Fiat dealer and you wonder what you're doing there.
     
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    #22 ferraripete, Jan 4, 2017
    so true!
     
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    #23 dave_fonz_164, Jan 4, 2017
    lol true.......everytime I get my Fiat serviced I wonder how in the hell do Fiat customers feel comfortable here

    The Germans definetely understand customer service!
     
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    #24 ypsilon, Jan 4, 2017
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    Of course you're right, BMW is a well thought out experience, well organized with well trained employees. It probably doesn't matter if you go into a BMW dealership in Australia, Germany or the US.

    Expect just for the price of the new BMW 7 series extended Individual leather + the Bowers & Wilkins Diamond Surround Sound System you can probably buy the average Fiat. Just the costs of options alone on many new 7 series surpasses the price of any new Fiat.

    And don't forget BMW meanwhile has a significant history in the US and a broad range of products. Fiat however just turned up again in the US. It's a bit apples and oranges, a premium brand vs. a regular.

    Then again spending multiple 1000's of $ on any new car, on any brand, a certain standard is to be expected.
     
  25. TheMayor

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    #25 TheMayor, Jan 4, 2017
    I completely agree and people like you and me will overlook it. I bought my 4c in a tiny Fiat studio and I knew 1000 times more about the car and Alfa than the salesman did. And it didn't surprise me one bit.

    But I think a lot of BMW customers will go there and walk out. That's a bad thing.

    The car has to be reliable number one. And I hope that is why they delayed it 5 times. Then they need to train the workforce as if they were selling BMW or Mercedes. Lastly they need competitive lease programs.

    I haven't seen the car but I think they built a winner. I never felt that way about the ghibli although the sales are actually pretty good. This car though I think they nailed it. I just hope other factors don't bring it down.

    Heaven knows Alfa USA isn't one for listening to us unfortunately.
     
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