USCC race at Mosport

Seems to be more commercials than racing.

 

What do we think of BoP? Imho complete BS
CTMP FAILS TO FAVOR RISI IN 2014 | Risi Competizione + Giuseppe Risi

 

Tried watching via live stream, kept getting a window stating that live streaming of the
race was only available in Europe, Asia, Afria and South America.

Sorry that I don't live in any of those places. Really...

BHW

 

I thought it was a good race. glad a P2 won overall. Mosport is one of my favorite tracks, up there with Road Atlanta. good to see the Viper GTD team win after the season they've had. close racing. no cautions. can't complain

 

I think the problem is the 458 is an old car in that class (the Corvette, 911, BMW and Viper are all newer designs), and they are a quasi-factory team versus full factory teams with the other marques. the 458 is still leading in GTD.

 

458 replacement isn't far off, so probably no reason to spend money on developing a Cali.

although the Z4 is a folding hardtop convertible that somehow becomes a fixed carbon fiber roof for racing...

 

Don't forget about the M Coupe; in fact I saw one on the road just yesterday.

 

yes but that's not what they're racing

they are racing a fixed roof, V8 powered Z4....a car that isn't sold as a road car. which annoys me. the Z4 coupe hasn't been made for several years (and even then wasn't available as a V8)

 

Why not do a test like they do with Wec gte cars (paul ricard fia/wec bop by jean marc gounon)

 

huh?

 

I've just recently been watching these Tudor Cup and similar races and find them much more enjoyable over most of the other mainstream racing. I have been wondering why it seems like the 458's seem to struggle against the other cars in their class.

Being new to this aspect of the sport are there only certain models that qualify under the rule set? I was wondering why there aren't Ferraris such as the 599 GTO or something. I mean wasn't the whole original intent to have a GTO variant so that you could take that car racing? I know that was the "old days" but you mean to tell me that now it is just a marketing term? I am shocked and disappointed...

I think you nailed it right on the head though, Ferrari is the oldest one in that class of racers. Should be interesting to see when the next version comes out...

 

a 599 (GTO or otherwise), or now F12, would have made sense in the old GT1 specs (where Corvette used to race, along with various 550/575s, Aston DB9, etc). that class fell apart due to participation problems, Corvette was for a few years the only car left in that class. what is now GTLM is GT2, which is a slower, cheaper (yeah right ) class. I suppose if a 7 liter Corvette and an 8 liter Viper can be homologated, Ferrari could figure out a way to run a 599 or F12, but it would be severely restricted on horsepower; so it makes more sense to run a 458.

 

I think the rules are inhibiting the Ferraris, but also the Audi R8s, the Aston Martins and even, to some extent, the Porsches, who were penalized some following their early season success. If USCC is trying to even the playing field, they're doing a poor job of it. It's as if they are favoring the American marques (Corvette and Viper).

 

Bop test gte/gt2 paul ricard (after Spa WEC IIRC): air restrictor size change, fuel tank capacity and rear wing height. This year it was "even" porsche / aston/ferrari/corvette. Last year Porsche had a lot of advantage (le mans)

 

IMSA does that too tests at Sebring in Daytona in the offseason, and adjustments through the year

 

Remember the RX8s running in grand am were aloud to run a tube chassis with a turbo 3 rotor motor. What of that sounds like a production car?

I think I remember reading that the Turner M6 that was running in GA actually had the same chassis as the RX8.

 

not Paul Ricard
24H du Mans: LMGTE Balance of Performance | FIA World Endurance Championship
do they have those tests on USA? Gte/gtd. Gte Tudor is not same as Gte Wec. Ok so yes for those bop tests but how can it be risi is so far back? Not the car that has been evo'd like porsche 997/991

 

they aren't as good as the other teams?