RIP Carl Haas | FerrariChat

RIP Carl Haas

Discussion in 'Other Racing' started by Ney, Jul 7, 2016.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. Ney

    Ney F1 Veteran
    Silver Subscribed

    Apr 20, 2004
    6,629
  2. GuyIncognito

    GuyIncognito Nine Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jun 30, 2007
    91,699
  3. Whisky

    Whisky Two Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jan 27, 2006
    25,287
    Upper Great Plains
    Full Name:
    The original Fernando
    WOW, legendary team owner.
    ALL the icons are getting to 'that age'.
     
  4. David Lind

    David Lind Formula 3

    Nov 19, 2008
    2,248
    Full Name:
    David Lind
    Yes, Whisky, they are; AJ, Big Dan, Parnelli, Roger Penske, & others are all in their eighties. We have gotten over 1/2 century of entertainment/fellowship/friendship (if you got to know them at all) out of these gentlemen. So to these American folk heroes I express thanks for enriching my life.
     
  5. F1tommy

    F1tommy F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Dec 15, 2007
    10,254
    Chicagoland USA
    Full Name:
    Tom Tanner
    I met him a few times. I used to have a side job working for a company called Graphics in Motion, and they did most of the graphics for HAAS. Racing is a strange business to be in!!


    RIP
     
  6. Gatorrari

    Gatorrari F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Feb 27, 2004
    15,924
    Georgia
    Full Name:
    Jim Pernikoff
    The cars Haas imported had quite an effect on North American racing:

    The T70 sports car that won the first Can-Am title and, later, the Daytona 24

    The T90 Indy car that outdid the Lotus in '66

    The T260 Can-Am car that gave McLaren fits in '71

    The T330 series of F5000 cars that dominated in the mid-70s and then again in the "new" Can-Am

    The T600 that won the first IMSA GTP title

    The T900 that provided Mario Andretti with his last open wheel title

    The T91/00 and T93/00 that won titles for Newman/Haas with Michael Andretti and Nigel Mansell

    The B02/00 that won four more titles for Newman/Haas with Da Matta and Bourdais
     
  7. rdefabri

    rdefabri Three Time F1 World Champ

    Jun 4, 2008
    33,571
    NJ
    Full Name:
    Rich
    RIP - I respected that he stuck with Champ Car post split.
     
  8. absent

    absent F1 Veteran
    Lifetime Rossa

    Nov 2, 2003
    8,810
    illinois
    Full Name:
    mark k.
    RIP.
    Met him and his son in Aspen about 10 years ago, since we shared the same instructor a lot of times, great, wonderful man.
     
  9. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jun 3, 2006
    25,447

    This makes you realise the influence of Carl Haas and Lola in American motorsport history.

    Both Carl Hass and Lola's passing are a great loss.
     
  10. ferraripete

    ferraripete F1 World Champ

  11. Timmmmmmmmmmy

    Timmmmmmmmmmy F1 Rookie

    Apr 5, 2010
    2,612
    NZ
    Full Name:
    Timothy Russell
  12. NürScud

    NürScud F1 Veteran

    Nov 3, 2012
    7,273
    Sad news.

    R.I.P
     
  13. dstacy

    dstacy F1 World Champ
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Jan 23, 2006
    11,770
    GMT -5 & GMT +1
    Full Name:
    Dave
    I bought my first race car, a Lola T204, from Carl when he had an old garage on the north side of Chicago. I talked with Paul Newman at his place on more than one occasion.
     
  14. yzee

    yzee F1 Veteran
    Silver Subscribed

    Apr 16, 2005
    8,686
    Bodegata
    Full Name:
    Michael
    Back in the late 80's or early 90's at Mid-Ohio for Friday Cart, my wife wanted to see Paul Newman. Didn't see him around the Newman-Hass garage. I saw Karl take off on his pit bike to a point way across the field at the top of the property just sitting there. I told my wife "That's Karl up there waiting on PLN coming in by helicopter". So she walked way up there by herself and talk's to Karl for about 15 min. Sure enough here comes PLN. So instead of riding back with Karl, PLN and my wife walked back to the garage together with Karl coasting beside them. I asked what her and Karl talked about all that time. Weather, kids, dogs. Both very common people.
     
  15. David Lind

    David Lind Formula 3

    Nov 19, 2008
    2,248
    Full Name:
    David Lind
    Michael, that's a fantastic story!
     
  16. dstacy

    dstacy F1 World Champ
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Jan 23, 2006
    11,770
    GMT -5 & GMT +1
    Full Name:
    Dave
    #16 dstacy, Jul 8, 2016
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  17. greg328

    greg328 F1 Rookie

    Nov 17, 2003
    4,178
    Austin, TX USA
    Full Name:
    Greg
    Very cool. RIP

    Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk
     
  18. Sandy Eggo

    Sandy Eggo F1 Rookie
    BANNED

    Jun 4, 2009
    3,636
    Encinitas, CA
    Full Name:
    Rick
    #18 Sandy Eggo, Jul 8, 2016
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
    I was part of Newman Haas Racing in 92-93...our guys wrote their data acquisition and analysis software. I spent the entire month of May in the garages at Indy and also attended a handful of other races.

    I don't really have the right words to describe what it was like to watch Carl go through his pre-race ritual of touching the cars - blessing nearly every part of them. Not to mention those big stogies he chomped on relentlessly.

    Proud to say that NHR won the Championship that 1st year - IndyCar Rookie, Nigel Mansell. :)
    Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
  19. GuyIncognito

    GuyIncognito Nine Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jun 30, 2007
    91,699
    wow, that's really cool! thanks for sharing :)
     
  20. rdefabri

    rdefabri Three Time F1 World Champ

    Jun 4, 2008
    33,571
    NJ
    Full Name:
    Rich
    Awesome!

    Was Mansell as much of a diva Andretti thought he was? :)
     
  21. Sandy Eggo

    Sandy Eggo F1 Rookie
    BANNED

    Jun 4, 2009
    3,636
    Encinitas, CA
    Full Name:
    Rick
    Ok, I'll take the bait. Here's a great story to illustrate...

    So we're at NHR offices in suburban Chicago, looking into wiring up their transport trucks with Ethernet (ok, remember, this is 1992) so the engineers have a network in between sessions at the track.

    My goofball manager decides to pull Nigel's fire suit and helmet out of the locker and dresses up in them. We're busy taking pictures of him. In the middle of this, Nigel's chief mechanic walks into the truck for about 2 seconds - sees what we're doing - and walks right back out without saying a word. We knew we were probably in deep **** so put everything away and got back to business.

    Next day, a higher up in our firm let us know that our entire partnership was put in jeopardy over this clown show. Nigel is quite superstitious - especially about his helmet. According to folks on the inside, he *knows* when his helmet has been worn by someone else and will no longer wear it. They decided to let it go and not make a big deal out of it. Thank god.

    So, draw your own conclusions. :)

    PS Mario is surprisingly short IRL.
    PPS This was the first time I ever saw an F40. Haas had one sitting in the middle of his office building. It was a mind-blowing moment.
     
  22. GuyIncognito

    GuyIncognito Nine Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jun 30, 2007
    91,699
    does anyone know what happened to Carl's F40? I recall an interview a long time ago where he stated he bought it purely for investment and it had almost no miles, stayed in the shop all the time...so potential for a time capsule F40 with great provenance.
     
  23. Sandy Eggo

    Sandy Eggo F1 Rookie
    BANNED

    Jun 4, 2009
    3,636
    Encinitas, CA
    Full Name:
    Rick
    That's consistent with what I heard at the time. Might want to ask in the 288/F40/F50/Enzo/LaF forum to see if anyone knows what became of this F40.
     
  24. ferraripete

    ferraripete F1 World Champ

    great story rick. thank you for that.

    we miss pln and mr. haas
     
  25. Whisky

    Whisky Two Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jan 27, 2006
    25,287
    Upper Great Plains
    Full Name:
    The original Fernando
    Wish all the guys would get together and sit around the campfire and just talk,
    the stories would be amazing, the books would be volumous.
    I LOVE that stuff.
     

Share This Page