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Old 03-04-2013, 01:52 PM
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991 GT3 revealed: PDK only, 9000 rpm/485 hp etc.

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I want that 964 Carrera RS more than ever, TBH...
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Old 03-04-2013, 04:11 PM
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I love everything about it except for PDK only... but watching this gets me excited about even that:

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Old 03-04-2013, 04:25 PM
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I was in Johannesburg this weekend and finally saw a few 991s. Couldn't believe how much I liked it (normally not the biggest 911 fan about, with the exception of 997s and 993s!). Sounded fantastic.

I started dreaming how a GT3 would be and what it would look like.

Looks fantastic, but thoroughly disappointed in PDK only. Perhaps they'll make the RS with an option for either gearbox but I'm having my doubts .

Surely it's doable to just dump a 7 speed manual in there...?
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Old 03-04-2013, 05:06 PM
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Egad. That center console in this vid above leading up to the waterfall like section with nav screen adorning the dash... Is that what new GT3 buyers want?
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Old 03-04-2013, 05:08 PM
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No sure this is the car that will make all the purists let go of their low-miles 2011's for me to consider as a purchase, at least not immediately. More systems, More complex, heavier, larger. I wonder where in the design process they decided that rear wheel steering was required to get the performance they were shooting for? I can't imagine that it was a key design characteristic of the planned platform. Of course, I am just a lay guy arm-chairing this and I am sure its an awesome car, I just wonder what was the real story is.

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Old 03-04-2013, 05:33 PM
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the big loss to me is no more metzger engine

PDK is great guys...learn to love it although I am surprised the 7 speed manual isn't an option.

electric power steering isn't a big deal, feels very similar to the 996/997 steering.
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Old 03-04-2013, 05:51 PM
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the big loss to me is no more metzger engine

PDK is great guys...learn to love it although I am surprised the 7 speed manual isn't an option.

electric power steering isn't a big deal, feels very similar to the 996/997 steering.
I agree 110 percent !
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Old 03-04-2013, 05:59 PM
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Has rear wheel steering also... rear wheels can either turn parallel to the front wheels (higher speed), or in the opposite direction (manuverability), depending on speed and turn angle...

Honda had that in the Prelude in the late 80's... Some GM pickups had it as an option for awhile

That's a huge change.

Supposedly is about 10 seconds faster around the 'ring...

Porsche 911 GT3 hauls 469 hp behind the steerable rear wheels | Motoramic - Yahoo! Autos
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:02 PM
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:15 PM
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No manual?

Burn them! Burn them! Damn you to hell Porsche!!
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:00 PM
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the big loss to me is no more metzger engine

PDK is great guys...learn to love it although I am surprised the 7 speed manual isn't an option.

electric power steering isn't a big deal, feels very similar to the 996/997 steering.
Yup. Anyone who would dumb this car down with an old school manual clutch would probably do better to get something less extreme to start with.
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Declutching by pulling both paddles is interesting. Not sure i have skill to use it but might be fun to be passenger with someone who does. Wonder if ferrari will add this
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Declutching by pulling both paddles is interesting. Not sure i have skill to use it but might be fun to be passenger with someone who does. Wonder if ferrari will add this
I thought they already did?

haven't driven a DCT Ferrari but the F1's I've driven go into neutral when you pull both paddles at once.
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:33 PM
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It looks like a great car, the PDK-only doesn't bother me. 9k redline
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:25 PM
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Declutching by pulling both paddles is interesting. Not sure i have skill to use it but might be fun to be passenger with someone who does. Wonder if ferrari will add this
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I thought they already did?

haven't driven a DCT Ferrari but the F1's I've driven go into neutral when you pull both paddles at once.
Is that what he means by 'declutching', I've honestly never heard that term before. Is that what Porsche is doing with the PDK on the GT3?
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:30 PM
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Burn them! Burn them! Damn you to hell Porsche!!
Been counting the seconds for that one, Mr Mayor?
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Old 03-05-2013, 12:33 AM
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I think a DCT is perfect for this car, but I can see how the Porsche community may have just wet their collective pants with this announcement. Methinks the 997 GT3 RS 4.0 just shot up in value.
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Old 03-05-2013, 12:36 AM
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Been counting the seconds for that one, Mr Mayor?
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Old 03-05-2013, 12:56 AM
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I think a DCT is perfect for this car, but I can see how the Porsche community may have just wet their collective pants with this announcement.
It's a track day car so PDK makes sense for a good chunk of perspective buyers. But GT3s are also seen as hardcore street cars by many Porsche fans. For them, Porsche should've kept the manual option going while regulations still allow.

What I want to know is if that new, tight engine will fit in either a 987 of 981 Cayman and mate up to the 6 manual. If so, there's potential for one hell of a "Porsche" in a few years. (I remember reading that this block is just a hardened version of the 9A1 (hardened with more heat treatment.))

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Methinks the 997 GT3 RS 4.0 just shot up in value.
. . . while the RGT market may have just grown a bit.
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:49 AM
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I am happy to see Porsche go this direction. We have been doing some work on the PDK for a couple of race teams and the gearbox is simply awesome.

It is blisteringly fast and offers the driver so much more in the way of performance that I can not find a single reason why anyone would not want to go this direction especially if they want to be competitive.

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