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1965 Porsche 911 For Sale

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  1. MRG22

    MRG22 Formula Junior

    Oct 19, 2010
    497
    California
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    Mike Gulett
    #1 MRG22, Jul 20, 2014
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  2. Ferrari 308 Vetro

    Ferrari 308 Vetro F1 Rookie

    Nov 12, 2012
    4,426
    Austria
    Long Time for sale and in the market. Looks Good to me, dont understand why it is still for sale...
     
  3. azcarguy

    azcarguy Formula Junior

    Nov 21, 2003
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    Marc
    I'll go out on a limb and say it's the price, at $350K it's a little steep and maybe folks are interested in something else at that price point.
     
  4. MRG22

    MRG22 Formula Junior

    Oct 19, 2010
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    Mike Gulett
    I think this 1965 Porsche 911 is priced just right. It is a race car with period race history driven by a well known German driver at the 12 Hours of Sebring and is licensed to drive on the street and has been restored to excellent condition.

    At the upcoming Monterey auctions Gooding has the following Porsche 911s (neither has a race history as far as I can tell):

    1965 Porsche 911 - Estimate: $450,000 - $550,000 - 1965 Porsche 911 | Gooding & Company

    1966 Porsche 911- Estimate: $400,000 - $500,000 - 1966 Porsche 911 | Gooding & Company

    The seller of the '65 911 on My Car Quest has left some headroom for the new owner.
     
  5. azcarguy

    azcarguy Formula Junior

    Nov 21, 2003
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    Marc
    That's certainly one way to look at it, on the other hand if something's not selling it generally means something. It's not that this car is hard to find or work a deal on so there must be something keeping it languishing on the market. Even more so if it is, as you put it, undervalued.

    And I'm of the belief that these prices are unsustainable which might make me one of the minority, but I guess we'll see how it shakes out.
     
  6. Ferrari 308 Vetro

    Ferrari 308 Vetro F1 Rookie

    Nov 12, 2012
    4,426
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    I know both cars:

    1965 Porsche 911 - Estimate: $450,000 - $550,000 - 1965 Porsche 911 | Gooding & Company

    1966 Porsche 911- Estimate: $400,000 - $500,000 - 1966 Porsche 911 | Gooding & Company

    One is nearly a '64 with a very low VN number and the other one it totaly original in first paint, see:

    One of the Finest, Unrestored Early 911s Extant
    Beautiful Special-Order Dark Blue Paint with Full Leather Upholstery
    Southern California Car with One Owner for Almost 50 Years
    Complete with Fitted Luggage, Books, Tools, and Extensive Documentation
    A Must for the Serious Porsche Collector

    and:

    One of 254 Early Pre-Production Examples
    Equipped with All 64 Unique Pre-Production Design Features
    Restoration Completed in 2013
    Rare Original Color Scheme
    A Notably Pure Example of the Early 911
     
  7. MRG22

    MRG22 Formula Junior

    Oct 19, 2010
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    They are both special and so is a '65 911 that was raced at Sebring in 1967 by a well known driver.
     
  8. HMS

    HMS Formula 3

    Dec 12, 2003
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    Zack Sursio
    Crazy prices for these early cars...just crazy.
     
  9. MRG22

    MRG22 Formula Junior

    Oct 19, 2010
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    Mike Gulett
  10. kverges

    kverges F1 Rookie

    Nov 18, 2003
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    Not singling out this particular car, but the market in general must be due for a correction. Who are all these people with deep 6, 7, and even 8 figure budgets for toys? I spend an irresponsible amount of a good income and assets on cars, but I am out of the market for now and sold my most valuable car is it had gotten to the point it was above my pay grade to risk driving it. Oh, and the insurance . . . .

    That said, I bet Monterey this year posts some crazy numbers and new record highs for all kinds of cars.
     
  11. John Binion

    John Binion Rookie

    Dec 2, 2013
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    John Binion
    Hard to compare the red subject car to this Bali Blue one (301036) that RM is auctioning. There seems to be a subset of the longhood market that puts a hefty premium on a 1965 911, vs a 1966 model like this one. Same market forces put a premium on one of the 232 1964 models vs a '65. For reference, the serial numbers for a MY '65 911 are 300233 to 301899.

    That said, a '66 like 303474 should benefit from the run up in all SWB prices, a rising tide lifts all boats kind of environment. As for provenance, again it is important to a certain subset of the market. Hopefully that specific buyer will be in Monterey next month. Would love to see this one go at the estimate.
     
  12. MRG22

    MRG22 Formula Junior

    Oct 19, 2010
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    Mike Gulett
    I am confused by your comments. The red car on My Car Quest (#303474) is a 1965 model as stated in the Post. I believe the 1965 models ran to #305100.

    A car with period race history usually commands a premium over a street car.
     
  13. Ferrari 308 Vetro

    Ferrari 308 Vetro F1 Rookie

    Nov 12, 2012
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    This 911 was at Mecum Last Year, no sale.
     
  14. John Binion

    John Binion Rookie

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    #14 John Binion, Jul 25, 2014
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    The model year rolled over in September when the factory resumed production after the August break taken in order to retool for the new model year and let employees take their summer vacation. The MY / calendar year difference is the same concept as we have here in the States, with Ford & GM rolling out their new model year vehicles in the Fall of the previous year. This car is an Oct/Nov 1965 build, hence it is a MY '66, built in '65.

    As far as your second point regarding the last serial number for the '65 MY, the below breakout might be of help. This is from the Early911SRegistry, put together by longhood guys smarter than me :)
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  15. Ferrari 308 Vetro

    Ferrari 308 Vetro F1 Rookie

    Nov 12, 2012
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    Austria
  16. pbaron89

    pbaron89 Karting

    May 17, 2013
    51
    Fort Lauderdale , FL
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    Peter Baron
    I have this car now in my collection. very cool to have the car and assembling all the Sebring history. Always happy to trade if someone is interested - for a F car 90's or older of equal value.
     
  17. Doug R

    Doug R Karting

    Oct 11, 2005
    207
    Yellow Springs Ohio
    To think I sold my 65 911 for $10k about 25 years ago, and thought I did well!
     
  18. keki289

    keki289 Rookie

    Apr 28, 2017
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    Do you still have this for sale?
    If so please can you make contact
     
  19. cheesey

    cheesey Formula 3

    Jun 23, 2011
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    the recent run up in P car prices has caused many rust buckets to be rescued by flippers from the crushers, many with questionable futures with regard to durability / quality of work, allowing for the better quality / unmolested cars to separate themselves from an already thin supply to demand a premium... like with the F cars, buyers are quick to separate the junk from the good by being wiling to pay up for quality / originality... as the junk cars start to bite the purchasers, the quality cars should be even more in demand
     

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