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Which GT2 Will Be Worth Most In The Future?

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  1. F355 Fan 82

    F355 Fan 82 F1 Veteran

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    It seems the 997's and 996's are trading for the same prices these days but the 997 is all around a better car. Where do you see the market heading for these rare beasts and which i the one to own?
     
  2. Mondial83

    Mondial83 Formula Junior

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    What makes the 997 so much better?
     
  3. jlonmark

    jlonmark F1 Rookie

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    I'd say the Gt2 RS
     
  4. henryr

    henryr Two Time F1 World Champ
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    where do you see 997 and 996 gt2 (s) selling for the same prices ?
     
  5. F355 Fan 82

    F355 Fan 82 F1 Veteran

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    it seems online on ebay you can grab a nice 2008 and a nice 2003 for similar prices in that $160-180k range. I see the 2008 they only brought over 185? Is that right? Meanwhile the GT2RS they made 500??? So they GT2 is actually rarer? Im actually in the market for one but Im hoping to find a low miles white one and one actually popped up on ebay but I dont like the big GT2 insignia along the sides. Im just curious what people think is the better investment long term, obviously both are fantastic cars and I dont think either will be a bad buy Im just curious which ones people are thinking are better long term buys? It seems like 996 ones are higher valued now for some reason Im not seeing but the 997 ones surely being newer are more advanced.
     
  6. LARRYH

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    IF your luck is anything like mine no matter how hard i consider The one worth the most will be the one I did not buy. (just kidding)
     
  7. Mondial83

    Mondial83 Formula Junior

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    And I hope it's the one I did buy. (Not kidding)
     
  8. F355 Fan 82

    F355 Fan 82 F1 Veteran

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    anyone with any actual market insights?
     
  9. GuyIncognito

    GuyIncognito Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    GT2RS will be the most valuable/collectible long term but that's pretty much already baked into the price.

    between the 6 and the 7, 7 is the "better car" in terms of drivability, styling, amenities, etc but the 6 is the more true driver's car, in perception if nothing else. it's hard to say which will come out as the "winner" in collectability between the two, if any. so I'd say buy the one you like.

    btw they made 500 GT2RS, and around 1000-1200 7-GT2's (I've not seen a specific number for total 7-GT2 production, but that's the consensus range). I think you confused US production vs. global production in a previous post.
     
  10. osu_s2k

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    I own 09 ....gt2rs most valuable at 500 units....gt2 1200+ worldwide with around 180 in n america in 2008 and 18 inUS in 2009. 996 will always be burdened with the ugly headlight comments where 997 looks better. I haven996 tt so headlights dont bother me Pricing is dependent on the dme readout and as far as options light weight bucket seats is key. 2008 i would say 150+ up to 200 w low miles. 2009 rately on market only difference is the pcm/navigation..2009 probably commands extra 10-20k. Gt2 isnrelative value as msrp is near 200...it is undeniably fast, boost is addictive, not the aural character of gt3 but faster
     
  11. John B

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    I have an '08 997 GT2 that I've been using as an almost daily driver for four or five years now. I just LOVE this car, and it's getting better with age. It makes every trip a thrill. I think 997 GT2's are quite a bit better than the 996's, there were a lot of improvements. I don't think you can get them for the same price though, unless you're willing to pay a silly price for a 996 GT2.

    To invest (which is kind of silly IMO): I'd say the GT2RS or 993 GT2.
    To drive and enjoy: 997 GT2 (almost 1/3 the price of the above)

    A few easy and relatively inexpensive mods will bring a 997 GT2 pretty much up to GT2RS spec. I've done these.
    EVOMS ecu flash - +66 HP (a little more boost and rpm)
    Single mass flywheel and stronger clutch - Needed with the EVOMS power
    GT2RS intercoolers - flow better
    LiFePo Battery - saves 36 lbs up high in the front

    Great cars!
    Good luck and enjoy
     
  12. LightGuy

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    #12 LightGuy, Nov 4, 2016
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    Well.... Yaaa!
    The little problem is that they are north of 400K.

    I watched the GT2 market for several years and bought a 996 GT last summer just as the market turned. At the time there were only a handful for sale. Now there are a bunch.
    I wanted to "trade up" to a 997 GT2 earlier this year but talked myself down. The 996 GT2 is said to be more raw. One nice thing about the 7 is that it has nannies if wanted. The 6 tolerates no foolish behavior.
    If I were buying right now I'd be looking for a 2004 or 2005.
    Thats said the 997GT2 may be the last of the manual shift GT2's. Probably $50K more than a 6er.
    Always something to be said about "the last of"
     
  13. kouwenhoven

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    I bought a low mileage 996 GT2 Clubsport Mk1 from 2001. This was the first year for the 996 GT2 and only 247 cars were built. A fraction was built as a Clubsport and a lot were crashed due to the lack of traction control. It's the real widow maker, a raw car with a reputation like this will be appreciated more over the years than the more tamed GT2 MK2 and 997 GT2.

    I'm trying to find out how many 996 GT2 Clubsports were produced, but nobody seems to know.

    Erik
     
  14. kouwenhoven

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    #14 kouwenhoven, Nov 28, 2016
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    Here's the production numbers for the GT2, but Clubsport is not specified...

    When we use the UK sales numbers (129 sold between 2001-2004, Clubsport: 16) for worldwide production, that would mean one in every 8 GT2 is a Clubsport. If that is true there should be no more than 160 Clubsports 996 GT2 in total and only 30 in the first year of production. Seems low. Any better approaches?

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  15. Mondial83

    Mondial83 Formula Junior

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    Hmmmmmmmmm I thought all turbos were GT 2s?????????? All 996 turbos??? What's the difference in the 996 turbo and the 996 GT 2????
     
  16. Sterling Sackey

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    996 GT2 didn't have an RS model above it... that fact alone is something to think about!
     
  17. GuyIncognito

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    I think that just means Porsche's marketing department wasn't paying attention ;)
     
  18. NürScud

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    Talking in general i would say the 993 and the 997 (RS) version.
     
  19. Mondial83

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    Still does not explain the difference. Do I have a GT2 996 or is it a 996 turbo? There are no markings on the car just says turbo on the back but the registration says GT2. What's the difference mine does not have the x50 package
     
  20. BOKelley

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    #20 BOKelley, Nov 29, 2016
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    The GT2 is a different animal compared to the 996tt. When I was in the market for a 911 five years ago I looked at a speed yellow 993tt, several 996tt, a GT2 and a GT3. As I recall the GT2 was basically a lightened version of the tt (maybe 300lbs less) but, more importantly, was only rwd compared to the awd tt. It is a beast and was warned that it was a handful if you didn't know what you were doing with it. The regular 996tt was rated at something like 430hp, the X50 version came in at 450hp and the GT2 was 480. So no, the 996tt and GT2 are not one in the same and are completely different in many ways. For instance, if you have rear seats, it is not a GT2. Your VIN will tell you exactly what you really have...look on Rennlist for info on VIN check info.

    I ended up purchasing an '02 996tt X50 with only 15K clicks on the odo. I love it but looking back should have purchased the 993tt. From what I have heard, it has more that doubled in value......

    Brock
     
  21. BOKelley

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    Also, if you are in doubt on options...there is a sticker on the inside of the trunk lid that has the codes for each. If you have an X50, it will be listed there as such....
     
  22. Mondial83

    Mondial83 Formula Junior

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    Finally someone answers that question for me. I have no idea why title and Reg. Says GT2 so I was confused. Mine is clearly a regular ole 996TT it does have back seats so thank you for clearing that up. I still love my 996 turbo and at 90k less than a true GT2 it was a good buy.
     
  23. cheesey

    cheesey Formula 3

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    GT 2 ( as GT 1 or GT 3 or GT 4 ) are racing classes which have their own set of rules for the cars that will compete under a particular class... they have nothing to do with the manufacturer other than supplying a car that should meet the racing rules for that class at that time...

    when a manufacturer as Porsche presents a car for sale, such as the 996 turbo, it is presenting a car for sale to the general public as a grand touring car to feature their technical advancements without regard to meeting any racing rule. Depending on content a Porsche 996 TT can outperform a car built to a racing spec under the GT rules.

    Cars offered to meet the "GT" class racing rules are de-contented / stripped of what they can offer in the way of latest technology and best performance in interest of parity for those wanting to race under a particular class rule. GT (2) is not limited to Porsche but open to all manufacturers wanting to race... there are GT2 Mustangs, Cameros, Corvettes, Astons, Ferrari, etc.
     
  24. Mondial83

    Mondial83 Formula Junior

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    It all makes sense now. Thanks for the lesson.
     
  25. bagster

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    The ones that aren't crashed.
     

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