Go Back   FerrariChat.com > Other Cars > Porsche

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 04-03-2017, 10:28 AM
jippiejake's Avatar
Formula Junior
Rossa Subscribed
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Venice Beach
Full Name: Mike Kerns
Posts: 620
1973.5 911 T

Hey Guys,
Need some help here.
I'm a Ferrari Maserati guy and this 911 fell into my lap and I'm not too sure what to do with it..
Does anyone know how to look of the vin to find out about the car?

The vin is 9113102194

Here are few rough pictures.

Thanks so much boys..
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_9668.jpg (49.4 KB, 331 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_9669.jpg (39.9 KB, 327 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_9670.jpg (46.2 KB, 330 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_9674.jpg (48.5 KB, 325 views)
Reply With Quote
Non-Sponsor Ads
  #2  
Old 04-03-2017, 10:29 AM
jippiejake's Avatar
Formula Junior
Rossa Subscribed
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Venice Beach
Full Name: Mike Kerns
Posts: 620
911 T

Few more pictures..
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_9682.jpg (64.4 KB, 320 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_9681.jpg (52.3 KB, 326 views)
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-03-2017, 11:45 AM
Karting
Silver Subscribed
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 200
That VIN is appropriate for a U.S.-spec 1973 911T with electronic K-Jetronic fuel injection. There were 1,944 such cars produced. The engine number should be in the range of 6133001 - 6136092.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-03-2017, 11:52 AM
Karting
Silver Subscribed
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 200
And don't let anyone tell you that your car isn't worth anything since it's only a "T". Those late-model '73.5 T's are pretty valuable since they offer the aesthetics and driving experience of an early "long-hood" 911 (before impact bumpers in 1974), yet have a very easy to live with electronic fuel injection system. The mechanical fuel injection system offered on the 911E and 911S are fiendishly complex by comparison.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-03-2017, 12:00 PM
Karting
Silver Subscribed
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 200
Final thought:

If that's a matching numbers, original paint, rust-free example then you've got a six-figure car there (yes, the first figure is a "1").

Get yourself a Porsche Certificate of Authenticity to see if engine number, transmission number, colors and options are all as delivered from the factory.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-03-2017, 12:36 PM
Formula 3
Silver Subscribed
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Laguna Beach, Ca
Full Name: Freeman Thomas
Posts: 1,676
Quote:
Originally Posted by lopena View Post
Final thought:

If that's a matching numbers, original paint, rust-free example then you've got a six-figure car there (yes, the first figure is a "1").

Get yourself a Porsche Certificate of Authenticity to see if engine number, transmission number, colors and options are all as delivered from the factory.
I would say realistically if the above is correct, looking at the photos, condition, color combo, list of "things to do", I put the value in the range of $55K to $65K. '73.5T's have the stronger 7R block and are really good driving machines. Not as emotional and/or desirable IMHO as a '72/'73 MFI 911. Looks like the wheels are earlier 14" or 15" deep dish Fuchs.

Freeman
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-03-2017, 12:49 PM
Formula 3
Not Subscribed
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,829
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4CamGT View Post
I would say realistically if the above is correct, looking at the photos, condition, color combo, list of "things to do", I put the value in the range of $55K to $65K. '73.5T's have the stronger 7R block and are really good driving machines. Not as emotional and/or desirable IMHO as a '72/'73 MFI 911. Looks like the wheels are earlier 14" or 15" deep dish Fuchs.

Freeman
the Fuchs wheels are date coded on the inside, should there be questions about the wheels,
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-03-2017, 03:24 PM
Formula 3
Silver Subscribed
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Laguna Beach, Ca
Full Name: Freeman Thomas
Posts: 1,676
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheesey View Post
the Fuchs wheels are date coded on the inside, should there be questions about the wheels,
If they're "deep dish 6's" they would be dated 1971 or before. "Flat 6's" are correct for this car but not as valuable. You can tell by the way the spoke connects to the rim. Deep 6's go in then out vs flat. If the hole by the valve stem is shaped like a heart, even more desirable.

Freeman
Reply With Quote
Non-Sponsor Ads
  #9  
Old 04-03-2017, 04:39 PM
jippiejake's Avatar
Formula Junior
Rossa Subscribed
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Venice Beach
Full Name: Mike Kerns
Posts: 620
911T

Thanks so so much fellas for the advice..
So paying about $30k to $40k for this is not a bad thing then?
How does one about reaching the Porsche Cert of Auth?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_9672.jpg (31.8 KB, 303 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_9680.jpg (33.0 KB, 303 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_9682.jpg (64.4 KB, 302 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_9683.jpg (57.5 KB, 301 views)
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-03-2017, 04:41 PM
jippiejake's Avatar
Formula Junior
Rossa Subscribed
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Venice Beach
Full Name: Mike Kerns
Posts: 620
911T

More pictures
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_9684.jpg (54.4 KB, 305 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_9685.jpg (58.2 KB, 302 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_9686.jpg (49.0 KB, 303 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_9687.jpg (55.3 KB, 301 views)
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-03-2017, 04:45 PM
jippiejake's Avatar
Formula Junior
Rossa Subscribed
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Venice Beach
Full Name: Mike Kerns
Posts: 620
911T

Original owner left car to son and now the son has passed.
California car.
Said was running as of a few years ago.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_9687.jpg (55.3 KB, 299 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_9688.jpg (37.6 KB, 303 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_9689.jpg (90.4 KB, 301 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_9690 2.jpg (62.4 KB, 303 views)
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 04-03-2017, 08:17 PM
Formula 3
Rossa Subscribed
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,345
rust. That is the killer of these things. Early long hoods rust everywhere. A 'little' rust on the outside means big rust is hiding. The cost to restore a car like this is easily $100k.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 04-03-2017, 09:35 PM
Formula 3
Not Subscribed
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,829
Porsche of NA issues the COA... google their web page, it will list info about obtaining a COA... there is a fee, don't recall but guessing $100.00+... it takes a few weeks to get it back
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 04-03-2017, 10:11 PM
Formula Junior
Silver Subscribed
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Boston, MA
Full Name: Christian J
Posts: 635
Writing to you as someone who bought a non-running '76 911 from an estate and then had to rebuild the engine I would do a little detective work if time allows. Forget the COA for now, it won't tell you how much work the car will need! PM if you want to chat in more detail over what to look for.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 04-04-2017, 06:09 AM
375+'s Avatar
F1 Rookie
Rossa Subscribed
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,039
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4CamGT View Post
I would say realistically if the above is correct, looking at the photos, condition, color combo, list of "things to do", I put the value in the range of $55K to $65K. '73.5T's have the stronger 7R block and are really good driving machines. Not as emotional and/or desirable IMHO as a '72/'73 MFI 911. Looks like the wheels are earlier 14" or 15" deep dish Fuchs.

Freeman
+1
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 04-04-2017, 07:45 AM
Karting
Silver Subscribed
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 200
Mike:

Nothing I see in your recent photos scares me...this 911 looks pretty much unmolested and intact (aside from some dodgy wiring and J.C. Whitney accessories). Rust is the major issue, as 09scuderia mentioned above, but if this has been a California car its whole life you may get lucky in that regard.
Your next step should be to sign on to www.early911sregistry.org. Like FerrariChat this website has reams of useful information about your longhood, especially on the mechanical/technical side.
Post your photos on early911sregistry and you'll get pages of feedback about how to proceed and where to have work done. Being that you live in Venice, CA you're in the center of the early Porsche universe...there are dozens of independent Porsche experts within a 50 mile drive.
Reply With Quote
Non-Sponsor Ads
  #17  
Old 04-04-2017, 08:53 AM
vjd3's Avatar
Formula Junior
Rossa Subscribed
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Rhode Island
Full Name: Vic
Posts: 883
My Garage
Looks like a nice find, those old 911s are terrific cars. But as others mentioned, definitely look for rust, they did not start galvanizing the bodies until 1975 if I remember correctly.

A non-AC car ... just as well as that early system was about as effective as a fart in a windstorm.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 04-20-2017, 08:38 PM
Rookie
Silver Subscribed
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Oakland ca
Full Name: Bill
Posts: 46
Looks like a pretty decent find esp @ 30K-40K. You didn't get any pictures of the common rust areas though. Battery box, front suspension pan, rear seat, pedal box. 73 1/2 is the first iteration of the CIS fuel injection system. Eventually they got that system reliable. The first gen had some teething problems and some parts are unavailable and either have to be rebuilt or worked around. It is much simpler than the MFI but I prefer the MFI, personally. Whoever said its worth $100K is probably a little optimistic. The problem with crs that have sat for so long is every system needs to be gone through and it gets expensive. Budget $1K/year that the car sat. That's been a pretty good metric in my experience.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 04-20-2017, 08:48 PM
Formula 3
Rossa Subscribed
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,345
to be safe assume you will drop $20k to get this truly road worthy. If the motor needs rebuilt (looks like it has OLD leaks) your total will be closer to $30k.

No deals in the old Porsche world.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 04-20-2017, 10:13 PM
Formula 3
Not Subscribed
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Honolulu, HI
Posts: 1,590
It looks like a nice car. Can you find out why it wasn't driven? I bought an 85 Carrera from my local Porsche dealer as it was sitting for about 8 years in the service bay. It too, was running when parked and I bought it as such. I got a really good price on it so whatever happened, I was okay with it. Towed it to my mechanic to get running again and some updates. It was my first Porsche and it was a really fun car.

Now, as a Porsche noob, I had no idea as to the strange sounds it could make, and what it meant. I could wind out 1-2 and it sounded great, 2-3 sounded about the same, but it also sounded like the car was farting. This farting/popping is a sign of loose heads, which will necessitate an engine drop and either tighten heads, or replace studs. i.e. top end job.

Just go in with your eyes open, and hope for the best, but expect the worst. I am now on my 8th Porsche.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:16 AM.


FerrariChat.com has no association with Ferrari S.p.A.
vB Ad Management by =RedTyger=

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.