1.) I have no idea why people are bashing me on this...I never said that this incident is completely Max fault!!! I only said he could have avoided it as well and therefore has his share 2.) Your picture is AFTER the first contact as you can see at the wheels...The rear of Kimi is already turned by the contact and this is why he is not straight anymore. Looking at the onboard one could see that Kimi is driving a straight line parallel to the white line until the crash when he is turned around... Max on the other hand is NOT driving a straight line...He is driving to the right first and when he sees Seb he is driving to the left. He was driving into the line of Kimi, not the other way round See at 0:21 the correction to the left by Max... You see: you do not have to photoshop anything, just have a close look
If Vettel was not in contention for the WDC there would less incentive to place 100% blame on him, as apparently the F1 media has. Call it aggressive, even stupid in the context of the WDC points, but I see Vettel defending his pole position, Max trying to recover because he'd about to be swamped by Kimi, and Kimi squeezing Max because despite his great start, he realizes he's not going to be a good position for the first corner. There's a reason this is the first time ever that two Ferraris failed to finish the first lap of a race. The perfect storm of all racing incidents...
I do not believe this team is "slowly sinking" at all. The fact is they've got their stuff together at lightening speed to snatch pole that looked certain to be Red Bull's is a sign of being on their toes. That's not sinking. This crash was a racing incident. That's all it is. Their is some shared accountability from all three of them and at this point a bit more on Max than Seb and certainly Kimi is almost completely absolved but in the end they each did something the other would do if in the others situation. This incident just stings much more than any other I've seen in years except maybe Elton Ham-Dashian passing that loser ****** Tito Time Out Glock at the last turn of the last corner...
In accordance with the published ENFORCEMENT OF RULES IN F1 FORUM, a 1-month ban has been applied for Bas Jaski: All the best, Andrew.
Just when room is running out for Max you can see him fiddling with the steering, but instead of lifting off for a moment to let those Ferraris do their thing he does, in the apparent realization that space is running out continue to go in flat out. I am not arguing the colission was his fault but it was on him to avoid it. What's the point of complaining "I would have won" but then not being capable to stay out of trouble. Sure, Vettel can't blame anyone else but then he doesn't. I would also win every race if there were no other drivers.
Yes ..and Vettel by serving to the left cutting off Max left a big space for Hamilton to drive through, in retrospect watching the replay he will be kicking himself, because let's face it, they were of no concern to his WDC bid.
Now you have all the British/LH fanboys crying all over social media that Vettel wasn't penalized. Biggest bunch of crybabies on earth. Its not enough for them that LH has a cakewalk to the title now. Now Vettel has to get a penalty. The British F1 fans probably have to be the most perpetually butthurt people ever. Theyre still mad about Baku. Hell theyre still mad about MSC kicking everyones ass for years
Lift off See at 0,06: you know what: "Er wurde eingeklemmt, so Verstappen ist Unschuldig" bedeutet.... That viewpoint is probably the best so far, I now actually think Kimi is just as guilty as Vettel maybe even more so. He didn't leave Max space while he himself had lot's of space on his left, he was even steering into Max just before impact while Vettel suddenly and very rapidly approached from the right in less than a second (from 0,01 to 0,02). Kimi gave Max too little space. Max was just accelerating almost death straight in the middle of the track. And than some say it was Max who should've lifted ? ridiculous. It's a shame obviously, it's a big big blow to Vettel's title chances.
Actually it is a fair question. Several polls of fans worldwide have shown that 60% of the guilt lies with Seb. He is because of Baku already "on probation". If he'd get some penalty points for this one, there would be a real chance/risk that he'd get a one race ban. The FIA stewards were very aware of that, which is probably why they didn't give him a penalty. But if he does one more bone headed thing like this, they might throw the book and a one race ban at him which would likely decide the championship.
Actually, the Silverstone 2016 where he forced Massa off the track has dropped (1 year) 2pts. The next one to follow is 2016 Malaysian Grand Prix 2pts caused a collision with Nico Rosberg. Then 2016 Mexican Grand Prix 2pts drove dangerously (incident involving Daniel Ricciardo).
Easy now, as a self proclaimed fan of Hamilton I can say that giving Vettel a penalty would be completely innappropriate. This was a racing incident and nothing more. Everyone is scrambling for the same position in the first lap.
I agree his posts are generally valuable and his ban is a shame. However, the rules apply to everyone and the consequences of not adhering to them are not subject to modification to reflect member popularity. All the best, Andrew.
Yes, I know what it means, but just because Marc Surer says so does not mean this is the final word... I do not see where Kimi is steering to the right but Max is not driving a straight line, that simply is not true! I still think Max could have avoided contact if he had payed more attention...so he has his share in the accident just as the others have -> race incident
There's little pony in arguing over it, to most people it's a racing incident, three drivers vying for the lead, and with various intentions, crashed. It's gifted the world championship away prematurely, but hey, who cares, we knew the Mercedes would get it anyway as soon as they got on top of the tyre issues and managed to get the FIA to remove the quick bits on the ferrari, so what does it matter? Let's look forward to seeing if bottles can beat the donut, and if Maxine can now turn his attentions to smashing into Mercedes cars - he's done red bulls, now he's done ferraris, must be their turn soon. This is the real story of this years championship - how many people can Maxine take out of races this year without being banned or vilified for it. Bet kyvat and grosjean are sniffing their armpits and wondering why everyone still loves max, while they are hated, yet they all have the same kamikaze style
First you say it is a racing incident, and then it is all Max's fault? Yes, he bumped Ric out of the race, true. But remember that he was bumped out of the spanish GP by Kimi, who got bumped by Bottas. Does that count as a Mercedes-smashing or a Ferrari-smashing by Max for you? Just curious.
