Countach Downdraft 1985 to 1988.5

Your QV will get pummeled by an SE. If you'd like, I offer up racing my SV to show you how badly, and my SV is slightly slower than an SE.

According to the article, they averaged road tests from both cars, then compared the 2.

Back in the day when I had my first lowly F/I Countach , we had a track day at Moroso in Palm Beach. I was fortunate to do several pulls with a 288 GTO, and it seemed that each time the Countach would initially pull, but when the 288 came on boost it would stay glued to the Countachs bumper. These were short pulls we did... 2nd and 3rd gear. Personally I think as speeds increase, the GTO would have the advantage.

 

Your description of the Countach versus Gto fits my impression well, like i said,the Countach felt quicker,out of the hole, but never had a chance to go past lets say, 130mph, At that point ,GTO might get a slight advantage, not shure, hopefully Joe gets this dd /gto comparo going. Very exiting.

 

I want your job.

 

Performance differences between the stock USA and Euro models have been established since the day these cars came out. I'm not sure why owners still gripe over this when we have factory issued information on the matter.

All USA spec vehicles INCLUDING the 930 Turbo, F40, Testarossa, Jalpa, LM002, Diablo, SE30, 911, Biturbo, QPIII, etc were made to be compliant at the expense of performance. What would actually be of interest is seeing a QV with an unrestricted exhaust system open its legs.

I completely agree that testing a newer model against its predecessor is redundant. It would be amazing however to see the QV and GTO go up against each other in a controlled environment. This would undoubtedly be the most exciting test in recent times, it's great that someone like Joe has the knowledge and means to organize it.

 

Sure I do recall, I passed some diablos (f.e. VT Roadster) on the straight line...
http://www.countach.ch/vivaitalia.html
http://www.countach.ch/vivaitalia2003.html

 

yes, Joe
this post was not intended to discredit the QV
more intended to show the QV was still around the same time as a diablo on 400 meters (similar to quarter mile test). that is very good imo, considering the car is 5 / 6 years older than a diablo and was very much old tech

Of course after that the power advantage and much better aero come to work the diablo being much faster Vs the QV on the standing Kms etc

this site is very interesting:
the numbers are taken from period real road tests, my understanding is average on more than one tests, so a pretty good indicator of what good cars could do when new.


and here it is the QV Vs 288 GTO
the GTO looks to be quicker all around, not by a wide margin but the full second on the 1000 meters is a considerable difference

http://www.zeperfs.com/duel972-1000.htm

 

with all respect, Raymond
people on this kind of "lamborghini" or "ferrari" track event, drives the car VERY differently
i know of many lambo owners never drove their lamborghini on the track and often have NEVER driven any other car at the track
and i know many that really not push their cars 100% EVEN on the straight line ...it is just they love them too much LOL

so why i do not doubt your words, i am sure you pushed the Minram/Stofer to its limit 100% while i think some diablo drivers may have been a bit light on the loud pedal. Also to be noted the speed you and they exit from a corner helps a lot in gaining speed in the next straight line

 

Emilio, I'm racing since 2004 officially, I know all these Details.
I can tell you from my memory that the Diablo drivers pushed there cars as well, also keep in mind that a 1999 Diablo has much better brakes than a 1986 QV...

Anyway i't not a question if this or that car was faster, that time I had also hardly any experience on a race track.
What was always a fact, Ms Chianti was always able to keep up with Diablos and Gallardos up to speeds where aerodynamics didn't play a important role.

 

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this is a road test of the famous (factory tuned engine) Pierluigi Martini Quattrovalvole carburatori, performed in period by Automobilismo magazine
wingless car

printed results:
400 meters in 13.1
1000 meters in 23.4
0-100 Kmh in 5.1
top speed 280.3 kmh (" but engine still felt vital" they said)

you can see Martini side by side with his red QV in one picture
i have been told by a reputable source Martini recently tried to buy this car back

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that's my point

just a little track experience makes a lot of difference, racing experience a TON

 

Here as well Pier-Luigi's car, better 0-100kmh time but same for 400 and 1000m: http://www.countach.ch/SportAuto1987/index.html

 

Viva Italia I participated 2002 and 2003, I begun to race 2004... 2002 was the first time on a track, perhaps I had some hidden talents...

 

entirely possible
i heard you do very good on this kind of events

 

Agreed.

 

It's been a fair amount of work for Rob, and it's not 100% sorted, but is an improvement. Site traffic & content, in this section anyways, "feels" like it is increasing almost daily.

 

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Compromise without thinking you are compromising. That's what I tell the wife....lol