Portofino Launch and picture thread

NOTE: dealer says that 5 spoke is a 19" wheel


They really need better wheels on these cars.

 

Always interesting the dichotomy between F-chat enthusiasts and general public re the Cali. No one has ever mentioned the chunky butt, challenged looks, etc. of the Cali in the 18 months and 10 K miles I've had it. Mostly, it's "Holy Carp, is that really a Ferrari?!?"

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That is one beaut!!! Even though I traded in my Cali T for a 458, I still miss it. It again is a very elegant car with class.

 

458 Spider?
You miss it like we miss all cars, or you REALLY miss it like maybe it was a better choice?

We are picky bastards. Spoiled too.

 

I found this photo on a German website. I LOVE the Portofino's lines!! I'm treading on dangerous ground when I say this, but I feel that anyone who doesn't believe this is a beautiful car is being disingenuous. You may not believe it's the prettiest Ferrari, or perhaps you believe it should be more Ferrari - maybe you believe it should be less aggressive, and more elegant - I'm not suggesting it meets everyone's idea of what a Ferrari should be, but I am suggesting if you look at it simply for what it is, badges aside, one has to agree, in the world of automobiles, this is a beautiful machine. I make this point, not only to praise Ferrari on its success, but also to point out that this observation is a big deal. How so? I'm not convinced you can say the same about some of Ferrari's offerings over the past decade. The Portofino, I think, will have MANY admirers, and VERY few sincere detractors.

 

lol. That's silly.

Rear end is ugly. Plastic hunk hanging out.
Sides are overdone and yet still rather square and boxy, again emphasizing the black plastics.
Front, Rear, Side views of the car do not flow like the F12 or the 458 or the TDF.
It's a beautiful upgrade ... to the Camaro. Kidding. Mostly.

Need to see it in person, but the lines on 488, Lusso and this look to be drawn increasingly with a fat charcoal not a sharp pencil like the last of PF. And so much plastic exposed.

 

Everybody seen the film? Its just like my life (err not)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiPiAMZwmkw

 

I liked the Portofino from the first moment I saw it and if someone asks me why I can’t give a straight answer but I’ll try to explain with some examples. Having owned before an early California that I liked and enjoyed, I learned to appreciate the versatility and the qualities of a Ferrari GT/convertible. I observed through time the California lines from almost every angle and became aware of the design difficulties that the rear section posed due to the fact that the boot has to have enough height and volume to store the roof when the top is down. In the case of the California even Pininfarina house with it’s long experience, creativity and credits, wasn't able to tackle absolutely that design challenge and the result is that the California rear section when the top is down looks elevated in relation to the rest of the car specially when you look at it from a profile angle. IMO the Portofino has that design difficulty solved in a much better manner because when we visualised the car from a profile angle, like the one in the picture you posted, the transition lines to the rear section are smoother and the boot height at least visually looks lower. The Portofino boot design has improved substantially and IMO when we see the rear side it’s noticeable that the larger separation of the two taillights has improved significantly the car looks from that angle.


Someone said here before that the Portofino reminds him of a small F12 and despite of the fact that they are different models I can visualise in the profile of the PF GT with the top up, some similarities. The Portofino aesthetically is different from the California and a completely new car and to my eyes a beautiful one.

 

Big difference between one person's' car in person and debating a car online. (Look at the mondial hate online versus reality).

Even an individual's car, some people online are rude if they don't like it. In person people don't randomly call someone's wife ugly either.

(Plus there is an issue with cars looking better in person than photographs... but I think it's more the combination of general debate versus individual's car and online versus in person behavior)

 

I do think certain colors work better with the grey bits.

 

I'm curious as to whether the dual tone paint scheme (black roof) will be a common option on the Portofino. Have yet to see any with it. I think Enzo red (Rosso Fuoco) would be stunning with a black roof. Overall, I think the Portofino is gorgeous.

 

Very much looking forward to the first test drive reviews

The new improved chassis should shine!

 

How about carbon rear bumper? Painted rear bumper?

 

Painted is something that might help. Need to see it. Still a very odd set of shapes back there. Looks like plastic rocks at a child's playground.

 

Well beauty is subjective to a large point, that's true. But come on, that's nuts to suggest that the Portofino isn't a big step forward to the Cali. Btw congrats to all of you who have such distinct opinions without having seen the car personally.

The question if the changes are big enough to justify a jump from Cali T to Portofino is a personal decision. Put it the other way round: I really wouldn't want to drive around in these old Infotainment systems.

However, the reason why so many people in the US ask a question like this is bc used Ferraris don't have a lot of depreciation. I think this is gonna change, in general but for the Cali T especially. Portofino is such a step forward that the Cali deserves a discount. It's a much bigger step forward that 458 to 488: New model, not facelift and both cars already have Turbos - so no extra money for exhaust sound that helps the 458.

 

since when has using the word 'ugly' to describe a car become a rude remark?
just because you own the cali doesn't mean other shouldn't make any criticism about the appearance of the car.
and if you are implying your car as equal to your wife, i feel sorry for her.

 

always funny to see someone coming out to defend the righteousness of their purchases. look, the world is fine even with our difference in opinions. you can drive your dream car cali all over town and brag about how beautiful it looks. on the other hand you aren't gonna change my mind about how ****ty it looks by putting me down as one of the generic persons from 'general public' who according to you doesn't know anything about ferrari. my original comment was about the car, not you, no need to take it personal dude.

 

Where'd this come from?
Do you frequently say in person to someone that his car is ugly?
It's about etiquette.
A general comment about the style of a car is fine.
A personal shot at someone's personal acquisition is not.
(Not that a spouse is an acquisition... but the analogy stands).

My comment was about common courtesy. General discussions of aesthetics in cars or people or art is fine. Nasty comments on one person's choice is not fine.

Debates over the new car in general is a good thing. Taking a shot at a member's car choice is not.

Not difficult.

 

So don't be ****** and crap on someone's happy dream. Phrasing personal dislike for a new style is easy without doing that.

I personally don't like what the initial cali did with the tail lights. I have commented that it even kept me from buying the car.

Still managed to congratulate new owners on their dream car.

 

Got to say I dislike the ugly side of Fchatters more than the shortcomings of any Ferrari model!!!

 

My reply was not to you specifically, but more a comment on F-chatters. So, no offense taken on my part. Look through any recent thread on a newly revealed Ferrari and you'll see a large degree of angst, longing for the days of Pininfarina, LdM, or Enzo, hand wringing over whether new corporate RACE has ruined with hallow marque, turbo tech as the first step toward a dystopian future with a self-driving electric Ferrari SUV , etc. I'd argue that by recent F-chat standards, the Portofino reveal may be the most enthusiastic reception amongst the F-chat faithful.
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great! now you are calling me ******.
talking about hypocrisy. i never knew nor care if you own cali or not. my comment was not directed to you, it was a sheer opinion on the aesthetic of the og cali. you are the one who took it personal and making indirect yet obvious jab at me for being 'rude'. i was simply quoting and rephrasing your analogy to demonstrate how condescending you sounded. if my word ruin your experience on cali you definitely has a problem with your confidence in making choice.

 

Anyone have a guess when the Portofino configurator will be up and running in the US?
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