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tom do you live near this shop,i was thinking of visiting. whats the guy like.he gave me a price for a car body.
imo nothing! saw some work on Discovery Channel's "RIDES" Great stuff. You can not compare the two. At Hietbrink everything is done in Italian way, so no English wheel. Everything hammered out and with Eckold. Even the mocks/moulds are made by him to exact copy of an orginal car (eg. Alfa Romeo or SWB 60 and 61) I will post pics in the near future of the restoration of 13367 Daytona Competition if one likes
Yep! he has one. He has also restored some other cars (non-Ferrari) and sometimes the english wheel is used.
This question wasn't directed at me but if I may answer: he's a very nice guy and will take the time to talk about cars when you visit. If I lived closer to him I would visit him regularly. It seems Tom is more fortunate than me Ciao, Peter
It does not look like the original way. Ferrari panels were made out of many little panels welded together and then lots of bondo ... especially the race cars. The SWB, for example, looks like it was made with the English wheel to me ... and very well made at that As always these cars and copies are improving over time ... in 10 years time Ferrari quality will have surpassed the finest German engineering has to offer . Oh how confusing that will be to future generations when they read old books ... Pete
The SWB, for example, looks like it was made with the English wheel to me ... and very well made at that Looks! but made of pieces
Even when you roll a panel with an English wheel it is still made in pieces ... BUT when made by hammering out over a sand bag or a lump of wood it is made in many more smaller pieces. Have a look at Jim's 002 new nose creation ... rolled on an English wheel and made in pieces (Here during early fabrication: http://ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=141891&stc=1, and later here [you can still just see the welds] during trial fitting: http://ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=160802&stc=1). If I had time I would find a picture of a 330 GTC panel work as from the factory and in one particular area (around the rear pillar I think) there was something like 5+ 5 inch * 2 inch pieces ... crudely welded. That is how Ferrari did it ... not perfectly rolled via an English wheel as Hietbrinks do it. I put it to you that that SWB panels were (beautifully) rolled via an English wheel. Oh and by the way, even when using an English wheel you still manually beat/hammer the panel to stretch the metal and then roll smooth. That is not the same as hammering the shape completely ... as the Italians did. Great work but not the same as the Italians did. Pete
Sorry, but you are wrong. All panels of the swb shown are not done with an English wheel. All hammered and "Eckolded"
tom, there was two cars earlier in the thread on the same photo.Are these both rebodies or recreations.I take it you are local to this shop what sort of chap is heitbrink? im thinking of a trip over to discuss a project. graham
One day I'll find the picture of a 330 GTC (I think) that shows the very, very small panels that the Italians used to make. Then again maybe it was just this area on the body as it was complex? Don't get me wrong, this workmanship is brilliant ... but far better than original, and I guess that is how it should be as we all strive for perfection ... and I can happily accept being wrong. grahamdelooze, I smell another replica project ... Pete
a nice guy. You are welcome for a visit. There were two replicas on one pic, the other was an original 1960
tomgt, Thought you might find this interesting (from post: http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=135057160&postcount=142): http://ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=189175&stc=1 A REAL Ferrari body (Mondial race car I believe) ... notice the filler and general (lack of) quality compared to Hietbrinks work. IF the same process is used? (which I am still not convinced, but will drop it ) then I guess they could show Scagletti, etc. and his team a thing or two about panel beating. Pete
Straight from the horses mouth ... as they say All I can say is that I am extremely impressed with your (teams) workmanship! Pete