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This very well might be 002C. I show the car being with Don Vitale of Waterbury, CT sometime in either the late 1950s or 1960s, and then from him going to Richard O'Hare of Westfield, MA. Stan Nowak bought the car in 1968 and sold it to Carl Bross who was having it restored by Del's Auto Body of New York back to cycle fendered form when he died, I think in 1971. Car then went to Bamford along with several of Bross' other cars and the rest of the history is pretty well known from there. However, the period before Bross is pretty fuzzy. Do you know when your dad owned this car and what year he sold it to Tom Price? I guess Price sold the car to Nowak. David, do you know when Ed Willeman owned the car? This is fun trying to piece together the early history of these cars!

-Jarrett

 

Thanks!! I have so much more! I will post it later!

Wow thanks for the info! Its hard to fill in facts here and there between my grandfather and father...working on it : )

 

I am trying to piece this all together myself. I will do my best to help!!

 

Do you remember Sportscars of Springfield and Jacques Medical Center Garage in Springfield Longmeadow??

They bought most of the cars from Modena Racing, Chinetti or Sterns and Haskell.

Will post more pics!

 

The 400 Superamerica in those pictures was owned by Tom Price. The car was wrecked badly in 1967 ot 1968 and he then bought a White 275 GTB4 Came with blue seats and green carpets. : )

 

I would tend to agree taht it IS Jim's car when it had the Motto body on it. As far as I am aware, there were only 3 or 4 Ferraris ever that had Motto coachwork..

 

I think Dr. Stu is right. that is 002C with Moto body.

 

Note also that this body was later installed on chassis 031/S. It is easy to know which chassis appears in each picture as chassis 031/S used steel wheels at all times, it seems. Best wishes, Kare

 

Kare

Are you sure? I have body sold off and mounted on a non Ferrari after Stan took it off 002C.

Dave

Chassis is stamped on front cross member.

Best

 

Ed Williman reputedly owned chassis 031/S with Motto Spider body ex-002/C. Later this same car seems to have been owned by a Mr. Gilmore in USA. Original Stabilimenti Farina body of 031/S went into 007/S, left over chassis from an early Touring Coupe. Musical chairs, it seems. Best wishes, Kare

 

Very interesting. David and Kare do you think the photo is 002C or 031/S?
002C is stamped 002C on the front chassis crossmember.

Best

 

The photo was taken in the mid 1960s. The car was used in sportsman class racing with if im not mistaken Tom Price. My grandfather most likely obtained the car from a wholesaler or dealer on Jerome Ave. etc etc I will keep digging.

What a small world if you think about it... : )

 

Here is a photo showing Edmond Williman's chassis 031 S with the Motto body formerly on 002 C. Photo taken 1978 in Toronto, Canada. Note wheels. Compare with first photo in post #194.
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Thanks! Very interesting.

 

Judging from Marcel's photo, the photo in post #194, and the known history of 002C, my guess would be that John Temerian owned 002C with the Motto Spyder body on it in the mid to late 1960s. 002C, from its known history, would have been practically in his backyard if he was out in Springfield, Massachusetts at that time. It would appear that 002C then went to Tom Price, who possibly sold it to Nowak. Then when 002C was being restored by Carl Bross in New York circa 1969-1970, the Motto body found its way onto 031S, either by Edmond Williman or someone just before him (not sure when Williman bought 031S chassis).

The above is my personal speculation. Can anyone contact Tom Price and ask him if he has any recollection/records of the Motto Spyder?

-Jarrett

 

I might have been wrong about Tom Prices connection to that particular car... My grandfather says he sold a Ferrari Racing car to another client. He needs to see the picture to see who is in it. Whoever was sitting in the car was the owner who purchased the car from us.


100% Tom Price had the 400 SuperAmerica, 275 GTB4 in White.

Does a name Don Triumph ring a bell?? In relation to 002C with the Motto Body.

 

002 C went from Renato Nocentini's Garage La Rotonda in Florence to Dr. Samuel Scher in NYC in 1952. In 1953 broker Irwin Goldschmidt of Long Island/NY sold it to Frank Adams in NYC. Adams had the engine rebuilt by Bill Wonder. In 1960 Adams sold it to Don Vitale of Waterbury/CT. Vitale sold it to Richard O'Hare of Westfield/MA. O'Hare paid US$ 3'500. Car was still fitted with the Motto body. O'Hare drove it in the parade laps during the Double 500 at Bridgehampton summer 1967. In 1968 O'Hare sold it to Stanley Nowak of East Setauket/NY. Nowak paid US$ 3'500. Late 1968 Nowak sold it to Carl Bross in Bloomfield Hills/MI. Bross agreed to have Nowak restore the car back to original Spider Corsa configuration. In 1969 002 C was delivered to Del's Auto Body in Locust Vallyy/NY and Nowak arranged to borrow 004 C from Henry Clark to be used as a template. The former Motto body was removed and sold by Nowak to Henry Desormeau in Locust Valley/NY. Edmond Williman of Briarcliff Manor/NY acquired the Motto body from Desormeau. AFAIK Tom Price had nothing to do with 002 C.
Marcel Massini

 

Marcel you are missing an owner... at one point we had the car in our hands and sold it to Don Triumph... Unless there was another Motto bodied car in the same area. The picture from post #194 shows Don Triumph at the wheel.

 

And where does Triumph fit in?
Marcel Massini

 

The 250GT SWB was purchased from Chinetti.

 

That is what im trying to piece together myself. It would have to be anywhere from 65-70.

There is no date on the photo and for anyone in my family to remember exactly when they had the cars or who had them etc etc is a big debate.

 

IF Triumph fits into 002C's ownership, I think it would have to be before Richard O'Hare, since he is the only one whose ownership years are uncertain, other than that he had the car in the summer of 1967 and sold it in 1968.

-Jarrett