My 92 F40 for sale in the Ferrari Ads section.

Clearly.

We can therefore dismiss the July 1st proclamations as BS.

 

Nope I still believe it. High 3s and low 4s are a great deal. I got a good deal, I'm happy. But I don't have 92.

Since ur calling me out, why don't u finally respond to comments about the paul allen car!

 

It never fails:

When someone is looking, the cars are worth nothing.

Once they become an owner, the cars are worth the moon.

The truth is always in the middle.

 

PS. i have no idea where the FLI car actually sold, i just know when i talked to them about it they were firm on their price, and that was a few days before i bought mine.

 

+1 i never understood that either....and especially ferrari's once they are up for sale.

 

good luck with the sale DM !

 

Missed that one.

What would you like to know (besides the fact that I believe its the best one in the country)?

 

Clearly not. In fact, the new owner is very happy, and this F40 with less than 3,000 miles brought somewhat more than $593k, but somewhat less than $595k. Hope that clears things up.

Whilst I'm engaged in the process of clarification, let me dispel a myth that you and some others appear to have bought into: the is no material difference between the value of a 90, 91 or 92 USA F40. None. Zip. Nada. It all comes down to condition, mileage, & provenance. And not necessarily in that order. The "92 is worth more" myth was invented by certain intuitive salesmen at the end of the model's production run in order to move the flagging stock remaining in 92 & 93 on showroom floors, and it stuck with some gullible members of the public. By all means dont let me stop anyone who wants to pay more just because its a '92, but my advice comes to you free of charge.

Best,

 

http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=138776202&postcount=35

 

Whilst I'm engaged in the process of clarification, let me dispel a myth that you and some others appear to have bought into: the is no material difference between the value of a 90, 91 or 92 USA F40. None. Zip. Nada. It all comes down to condition, mileage, & provenance. And not necessarily in that order. The "92 is worth more" myth was invented by certain intuitive salesmen at the end of the model's production run in order to move the flagging stock remaining in 92 & 93 on showroom floors, and it stuck with some gullible members of the public. By all means dont let me stop anyone who wants to pay more just because its a '92, but my advice comes to you free of charge.

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thats funny, because i arrived to this conclusion via emails you sent me during my DD stage. Remember, trying to keep me away from a 1990?

apologies to everyone for not staying on focus. Im done.

 

Incorrect.

If I steered you away from a 1990 it was because of an issue on provenance not model year.

 

Already answered in multiple places. Look it up.

 

Please do not hijack this thread with this nonsense bickering.

 

DM1's car is a terrific car. I owned it once. It is perfect in every way, especially once he put it back to US spec with the things I didn't have in it, like the mouse belts and the headliner. It's worth all the money.

And as to model year having a bearing - of course it has a bearing. F40's were built one at a time and they got better as they went on. They learned a lot about bonding Kevlar and metal, they learned that the seat fabric initially used was prone to rapid wear. They improved the turbos. They built better cars the later into the run they went.
There may be no material spec difference between the first and last car built, but there is a world of difference in the build quality of the later cars versus the the first ones.
Of course US cars had the benefit of three years of Euro production but there is still a very discernible quality gap between a US 1990 and a US 1992 - always in my very humble and subjective opinion of course.

 

Hope U and Yours R well! Well posted as usual. (Except for liking the California )

 

Thanks. We are dodging bullets and running uphill in quicksand but hopefully things will improve sooner rather than later.
Congratulations on the 458. It is clear the P4/5 was its inspiration and template.

Best to you and yours.

 

Thoughts with all of us.

Thanks!

 

I agree that DM1's car is likely one of the better ones around.

But my experience from viewing literally several dozen USA F40s across the 90/91/92 model range is that they are the pretty uniform, and any differences are relative to the kind of life each car has led over the past 15-17 years. Additionally, I have seen 90s with poor build quality, and I have seen 92s with terrible build quality.

In fact, the wisdom I have received from some of the men connected with the manufacture of these cars is exactly the opposite of what you state. I am told that towards the end of production, they had manufactured so many F40s that they had to draft local polytechnic interns to work on the assembly line! Production numbers bear this theory out. Accordingly finish suffered and a well-know USA Ferrari concessionaire has told me that some of the last few '92 cars had such terrible paint that the customers refused to accept them, and the cars were in fact re-finished before delivery!

Also, I have never seen any specific evidence of said improvement in said kevlar & metal bonding during the run of the USA F40, nor have I seen any specific evidence that the seat material in a '92 is 'improved' over that of a 90! Additionally I have never seen specific stated data to show that the '92 cars had "improved" turbos.

I base my comments purely on what I have observed in a rather large number of 90/91/92 cars. In my view, a good one is a good one, and the year is really not important.

 

When it comes to these cars I couldn't agree more. It's more about the specific car than the year. If you can have both - a great '92 - then that would obviously be best. But there is really no value difference unless someone has to have a specific year for their own satisfaction. A great '90 will always be better than a mediocre '92.

 

Yes.

I do accept that there are those for whom a 92 has more value for whatever reason they ascribe to. As Ive said before, if you want to pay more just because of those two digits "92" then dont let anyone stop you. But, not me.

Of note for the 92-believers should be the fact that many of the F40s that are model year 1992 USA cars were in fact built at Maranello in the second half of 1991 and the car's chassis ID plate documents this...