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Ferrari dealers sending low mile 430s to auction?

Discussion in '360/430' started by tiara4300, Jun 1, 2010.

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  1. tiara4300

    tiara4300 Formula Junior

    Feb 27, 2005
    650
    miami ,fl.
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    Adam
    Ferrari of Ft Lauderdale sending two pretty new 430s to wholesale? I guess its not 2008 anymore huh? I remember when these guys wouldn't even look at an offer for a two year old car that wasn't over original MSRP. I just love the turnaround!!

    Seller Information FERRARI OF FT LAUDERDALE
    Location/State Manheim Palm Beach / FL
    Sale Date06/02/2010 - 01:00 PM Eastern Time
    Lane & RunLane 16 / Run 358
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    Sale Date: 06/02/2010 - 01:00 PM ET

    Vehicle Specifications
    Vehicle Details Year: 2008 VIN: ZFFEW58AX80159121
    Make: FERRARI Body Style: Not Available
    Model: F430 Doors: 2
    Trim Level: Not Available Vehicle Type: Car


    Seller Information FERRARI OF FT LAUDERDALE
    Location/StateManheim Palm Beach / FL
    Sale Date 06/02/2010 - 01:00 PM Eastern Time
    Lane & RunLane 16 / Run 361



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    SimulcastSale Status Status: Presale
    Sale Date: 06/02/2010 - 01:00 PM ET

    Vehicle Specifications
    Vehicle Details Year: 2006 VIN: ZFFEW59A060151184
    Make: FERRARI Body Style: Not Available
    Model: F430 Doors: 2
    Trim Level: Not Available Vehicle Type: Car
    Odometer: 7,360 mi Title State: Not Available
     
  2. nerd

    nerd F1 Rookie

    Oct 12, 2003
    2,535
    Coronado, CA
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    For almost two years guys have been dropping off their cars & keys at the dealerships in Scottsdale (Porsche, Ferrari, Aston, Mercedes, etc.). Are you going to try to make the payment on your car(s), home(s) or office? The car(s) usually go first.
     
  3. SeaNile

    SeaNile Formula Junior

    Jan 25, 2010
    679
    West Chester, PA
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    John
    Wonder what the wholesale pricing is for 360 and 430's. Is there a link to check out pricing, or recently closed auctions?
     
  4. tiara4300

    tiara4300 Formula Junior

    Feb 27, 2005
    650
    miami ,fl.
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    Adam
    2003 360 coupes
    04/08/09 W PALM Regular $74,500 19,318 Avg YELLOW 8G 6 No
    05/06/09 W PALM Regular $73,000 22,625 Avg RED 8G 6 No
    07/29/09 W PALM Regular $84,500 8,553 Avg RED 8G A No
    08/07/09 LAUD/MIA Regular $55,400 22,630 Avg Red 8G M No
    08/18/09 OMAHA Regular $83,125 6,799 Avg 8G No
    11/06/09 LAUD/MIA Regular $45,500 22,630 Avg RED 8G No
    05/05/10 W PALM Regular $75,000 21,024 Avg GRAY 8G A No

    2003 spyders
    02/10/10 W PALM Regular $82,000 15,288 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
    02/11/10 RIVRSIDE Regular $81,500 10,104 Avg GRAY 8G M Yes
    02/24/10 MILWAUKE Lease $79,000 14,940 Avg YELLOW 8G A Yes
    03/25/10 MANHEIM Regular $69,000 40,208 Avg BLUE 8G A Yes
    05/05/10 SAN ANTO Regular $64,000 44,763 Below SILVER 8G A Yes
    05/13/10 MANHEIM Regular $87,000 18,166 Above Yellow 8G 6 Yes

    2005 430 spyders
    02/25/10 RIVRSIDE Regular $116,000 19,140 Avg RED 8G A No
    04/28/10 ATLANTA Regular $112,000 4,611 Avg WHITE 8G 6 No
    05/05/10 W PALM Regular $130,500 21,567 Avg RED 8G A No

    2006 430 coupes
    05/06/09 W PALM Regular $115,200 13,686 Avg BULE 8G A No
    05/28/09 MANHEIM Regular $135,000 7,734 Avg RED 8G No
    06/04/09 RIVRSIDE Regular $132,500 6,303 Avg GREY 8G A No
    06/18/09 RIVRSIDE Regular $113,500 25,626 Avg BLACK 8G A No
    06/24/09 ATLANTA Lease $136,500 6,945 Avg RED 8G A No
    10/22/09 PENSCOLA Lease $130,000 7,530 Avg SILVER 8G P No
    12/03/09 W PALM Lease $88,500 30,269 Avg SILVER 8G A No

    2007 coupes
    12/18/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $140,000 14,526 Avg BLACK 8G A No
    07/29/09 RIVRSIDE Regular $146,000 3,747 Avg 8G No
    11/19/09 RIVRSIDE Regular $133,500 10,089 Avg BLACK 8G A No
    03/10/10 W PALM Regular $150,500 2,894 Avg RED 8G A No
    05/05/10 W PALM Regular $147,000 7,858 Avg BLACK 8G A No

    2008 coupes
    07/02/09 W PALM Lease $152,000 7,665 Avg CORSARED 8G A No
    01/14/10 RIVRSIDE Lease $161,000 3,149 Avg BLACK 8G A No
     
  5. Sellnit

    Sellnit Formula Junior

    Mar 22, 2010
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    Cincinnati
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    James
    04/28/10 ATLANTA Regular $112,000 4,611 Avg WHITE 8G 6 No
     
  6. njcycleguy

    njcycleguy Formula Junior
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  7. DMaury

    DMaury Formula 3

    Mar 27, 2007
    1,993
    Ponchatoula, LA

    It won’t let me link to the exact listing, but do a search on cars.com for 2005 430’s and check out the red/tan spider. There has to be more to the story as that is a VERY low price for a 430 spider with all these options (Daytona’s, CF packages, F1, CCB's, shields, red/tan) Anyone know the story?
     
  8. njcycleguy

    njcycleguy Formula Junior
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    Dec 27, 2008
    793
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    That's the one in the link.
     
  9. DMaury

    DMaury Formula 3

    Mar 27, 2007
    1,993
    Ponchatoula, LA

    Weird; when I clicked it the first time it just took me to the cars.com search screen. But then again, I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer. ;)
     
  10. zippyslug31

    zippyslug31 Formula 3

    Sep 28, 2007
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    I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. :X
     
  11. fc2

    fc2 F1 Veteran
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    Nov 2, 2006
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    me too, yuk.
     
  12. Hitch-Hiker

    Hitch-Hiker Formula Junior

    Jan 1, 2010
    373
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    HH
    Auction cars fellas.... Relax ;)

    Good place to buy IF you can and have the resources to (most don't). Go to every auction... Wait a life time for a car you would want... Hoping there isn't another bidder there that also wants that car..... And if you did get that lucky.. Found the car... The price would be more just because you are there bidding on it....

    Needle in a hay stack... But it could happen of course!

    After all. I just clicked a totally random lambo YouTube vid and there pops up MY 430 so anything can happen! But you must be ready for it when it does.
     
  13. tiara4300

    tiara4300 Formula Junior

    Feb 27, 2005
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    miami ,fl.
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    Adam
    I was there today and there were plenty of CLEAN 430s to be had at below the prices I posted above. No takers to speak of. A 2008 coupe with 12k on it sold for $133k after it only bid to $125k . Don't feel bad Bentleys were even uglier..
     
  14. SeaNile

    SeaNile Formula Junior

    Jan 25, 2010
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    West Chester, PA
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    John
    These prices make me think 360 spider! I'd have to sell my coupe first but it sure is tempting.
     
  15. Hitch-Hiker

    Hitch-Hiker Formula Junior

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    Well, sounds as if the hay stack is a bit smaller... Least I didn't pay 50 over sticker a few years ago.....

    Thanks for your report.
     
  16. Chupee

    Chupee Formula Junior

    Jul 10, 2009
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    Only problem with gettin everybody either excited or feeling ill is look at the average mileage and CONDITIOn Who wants an AVERAGE Ferrari. Shiny is nice but we all know the 10 you think your saving can be dropped in 1 little visit to the shop. I still dont think any dealer who is established is dumping clean sweet cars at Manheim..Now having said that if I could get Eugenio or Guiseppe to spend an afternoon with the car before i bid Now im thinking deal Ive come across a few auction cars when I was looking for my spider and then spent 1200 on 2 cars havin a PPI done, BOTh had repair estimated over $ 7000.00 to bring to current specs. I can assume most of us on this board are over the age of 16 and one thing ive learned whenever I have focussed on PRICE VS Quality it always come back to bite me.. be it cars , stocks, or women their is no free lunch.. Sorry for preaching but I can feel the non-owners blood pressure rise at the possible reality of turnin that key and hearing those test pipes roar for little money.. We all pay some where along the line. Pay now or later your choice. Ferrari in my mind bad place to look for a steal.
     
  17. bobbyd

    bobbyd Formula Junior

    Nov 17, 2003
    722
    All this thread points out is that, overall, the demand for Ferrari's and all late model sports cars in general is way down. That decrease in demand has a direct influence on price/values.
     
  18. Sean M

    Sean M Rookie

    Jan 2, 2010
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    Thanks for the info. Any records for newer 06-08 430 spiders in any of these auctions??


     
  19. rcuming

    rcuming Formula Junior

    Oct 18, 2009
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    Reid
    Could someone please decipher the abbreviations in these lists?
     
  20. Hitch-Hiker

    Hitch-Hiker Formula Junior

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    #20 Hitch-Hiker, Jun 6, 2010
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  21. Hitch-Hiker

    Hitch-Hiker Formula Junior

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    Date, Auction, Sale Type, Price, Odometer, Cond, Color, Eng, Trans, In Sample
     
  22. tuonoR

    tuonoR Formula Junior

    Apr 22, 2006
    319
    Would you mind posting the data for 2005 F430 coupes? Thanks...
     
  23. F16M

    F16M Rookie

    Sep 29, 2009
    29
    could it be that these cars have had some sort of history behind them (paint, accident) and the dealer does not want to retail it out to his customers. we should know all the facts before jumping to conclusion
     
  24. hifipj

    hifipj Formula Junior

    Sep 26, 2009
    402
    458s coming out...

    Just wait 'til winter, I think we will see even a more precipitous drop in 430 (and Scud) pricing 5-8 months down the road...

    Good for prospective buyers, bad for owners thinking of selling later this year.
     
  25. SrfCity

    SrfCity F1 World Champ

    Private party is the preferred way to buy. Doesn't hurt to come armed with auction wholesale numbers though. Take your time and do your homework.
     

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