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166 MM for sale with Sheehan?

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  1. carguyjohn350

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  2. naparsei

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    I not 100% sure, but I think this car was featured in R&T in the mid eighties, and inspired my lust for the earliest Ferraris.
     
  3. Camdon53

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    You might contact Bill Noon about it as I believe this car sat at Symbolic for some time recently with a price of $4.5M.
     
  4. BigTex

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    Pretty cool.........as noted not many of them had Lusso interiors originally......
     
  5. billnoon

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    Not our car anymore. Sold several times over the past few years... Last time was September of last year. Asking price was $3M. If you want to make a deal now, you have to talk to Mike.

    As for the car itself, except the alloy panels painted red, car was totally spot on, original and correct from front to back. Every gauge, switch, lever, motor, gearbox, axle, shocks, brakes etc.. as delivered by Ferrari.

    Cheers,

    Bill
     
  6. Aardy

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    Yes, body is completely wrong...
     
  7. Aardy

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    I wonder what is the interest to own an "original" Ferrari with an ugly REPLICA body ??

    0024M, 0036M, 0038M etc All these cars still had recently their original beautiful PERIOD Vignale coupes bodies, even if it's true these bodies were not first mounted on the chassis.

    I have seen in Monaco 0036M with its replica body in 2006 : brand NEW and without any soul. The car looked like a crappy replica !!

    And the Vignale body of 0036M was for sale two years later in the same place : what a design !! What a beauty !!

    I should have bought the Vignale body to put it again on 0036M chassis !!
     
  8. gil308

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    I love it! Why is the body wrong?
     
  9. Aardy

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    Just compare with the old pics of 0024M...
     
  10. carguyjohn350

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    This is true right? As I read Mike's ad, the original body was swapped in the early 50s and then changed back in the 80s. Assuming the original original body no longer exists, wouldnt the Vingale Berlinetta body have been preferable to creating a whole new one to look like the original?

    As I said previously, I am not an expert and not in the market for the car, just very curious. Of course at the end of the day all anything is worth is what someone else will pay.
     
  11. Kev33

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    Now THAT's ironic. I was looking at this car this morning too. It looks pretty legit to me. I can't believe someone would want to put a Corvette engine in it though...

    Kevin
     
  12. Napolis

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    There is that...
     
  13. thecheddar

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    I don't think "completely" is the right word. The nose is certainly not right and it appears to sit a bit high in front but the back looks correct to my eyes.

    Given the truly hand-built nature of manufacture, the fact that these cars were raced hard and that it's 61 years old, some leeway seems appropriate. Still, for that money, I might be tempted to re-visit that nose.
     
  14. gil308

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    I'm trying...still don't see it. I believe y'all, but looks good to me. I guess when I am in the market, I will definitely have someone here look at it for me :)

    Why did it get a new body during the 80's restoration?
     
  15. richardowen

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    Any pics of the Vignale body out there?
     
  16. Aardy

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    I have this body now, and I love it. We're fitting it onto a Boano chassis & running gear, 212 5 speed box, 250MM heads & 4 barrel Webers = 250S more or less (except for coil spring front suspension).
     
  19. Aardy

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    Just curious : what is the s/n of your 250 GT frame ?? I hope you didn't destroy a complete Boano for your project !!
     
  20. michael platzer

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    on what Boano Chassis number will it be fitted?
     
  21. 246tasman

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    0765GT which I obtained as a bare chassis in UK + engine (minus heads) & running gear from 0721GT (from USA) which also came as a pile of parts. Gearbox case from 0136E (current owner of this car is not interested in re-acquiring the box!), new Crossthwaite & Gardener 112 heads, new 36 IF4C carbs.
     
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  22. VIZSLA

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    Pics would be a treat.
     
  23. carguyjohn350

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    +1

    :)
     
  24. Napolis

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    FCHAT is an amazing resource. It enables you to see and hear a lot of things. It enables you to hear what people think and ultimately deceide what's worth remembering, who's worth listening to and what's true and what's not.

    Take this thread for example:

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=222487&highlight=ferrari+transporter

    Read through it carefully. Look at the Chassis the restorer showed on his build site. Look at the Photo's in the pit at Le Mans. Notice the fog lights INSET into the front bumper. Look at the Transporter today.

    You can go futher. Have your Consiliere talk to his homeboy who worked at the Bus Company when that one was restored. Read the replies to legitimate questions. Notice who goes off in a Huff. Going off in a Huff doesn't impress me. Staying and calmly answering real questions does.

    Take the self proclaimed "Journal Of Ferrari History" Cavallino. In their latest issue Keith talks about "The 1965 P2/3 s/n 0826,winner of the Targa Florio with drivers Vararella and Bandini..." Next to a photo of the car today. Starting with the photo of the car today, that look like a P 2/3 Spyder? Dig a bit deeper. Keith also talks about another car in that collection 330P 0818. Any hair on that one? Any lawsuits that will recommence in September in Modena? Two people claim to own that car. Why?

    Move on a couple of pages to the article Arnaud wrote who Cavallino has high praise for as an historian. "03C"? "engine stampings on 002's engine?" He got the Turin GP winner chassis # right? His statements are based on what? Marcel's statements on 002 are based on Physical inspection as well as research. Marcel is correct. Arnaud isn't.

    Once again before you buy something Dig Deep.
     
  25. shaughnessy

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    How much are the heads now?

    I know these heads do work

    Thank you
     

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