Ferrari 500 TR Spider Scaglietti #0648 MDTR was raced at the Forez 6 hours at Saint-Etienne (France) by Pietro Carini when he crashed into Antonio Borges Barreto's Ferrari 500 TRC #0694 MDTR, both drivers (Carini and Barreto) were killed instantly, Carini had race #54, Carini’s mechanic was Luciano Guassardo. All photos of this double fatal crash on page 272 of Frédéric Reydellet’s book „Histoire du Sport Automobile Forézien 1891-1960, Volume 1“. Marcel Massini
Photos was given to me by a Ferrari mecanic in Modena who had a client who claim to own the remains parts and want his car rebuilt
No, not the same photos. The book has five crash photos in total (of that crash), but different ones. Marcel Massini
I believe these photos show 500TRC s/n 0694MDTR. The lower photo appears to show a 500TRC vent just behind the front right wheel. The 500TRC vent is more of a horizontal rectangle shape, whereas on a 500TR it is more of a vertical rectangle shape. A photo of the hood would confirm, but I'm pretty sure this is 0694MDTR and not 0648MDTR. -Jarrett
At the time of the fatal crash Antonio Borges Barreto's 500 TRC #0694 MDTR was painted white with a dark stripe and the race number was #58. Marcel Massini
The photos in post#1 of this thread do NOT show 0694 MDTR and also do NOT show 0648 MDTR either, despite the handwriting on top left of the first photo. However, these photos do show a THIRD competition car which has nothing to do with the tragic fatal accident of Borges Barreto and Carini. Antonio Borges Barreto was in a white (with dark stripe) 500 TRC Spider #0694 MDTR at the time of the crash, race #58. Pietro Carini was in a light colored (not red) 500 TR Spider #0648 MDTR at the time of the crash, race #54. The dark colored wreck shown in post #1 has neither race #54 nor #58. Five good and sharp photographs, large enough to see in detail, of the two crashed Ferraris with race nos. 54 and 58 are published on pages 271 and 272 of Reydellet's softbound book I mentioned in my post #2. For copyright reasons I prefer not to scan in the accident pictures from the Reydellet book. Thanks for understanding. On the left side of the first photo in post #1 remnants (rear bodywork and rear deck lid, light color) of Carini's 500 TR Spider #0648 MDTR (race#54) can be seen. If one looks carefully even the opening for the gas filler cap can be seen in the headrest. I have never stated that the dark colored car in post #1 is either 0648 DTR or 0694 MDTR. I have no idea whose handwriting can be seen on those pictures. Marcel Massini
Any idea what this car is? Is it shown in other photos? It does look a lot like 500 TRC! What comes to rear part of Carini's car, I think you are right. The headrest belonging to this car is still on the transaxle!
Yes, the dark colored wreck (see post #1) is shown in the Reydellet book three quarter from the rear. It may possibly be a Maserati or another make, NOT SURE. The rear part of Carini's car is VERY prominently pictured, in all detail, in the Reydellet book. Including the race number 54. Marcel Massini
Here's a list showing the Ferraris entered for this race. This could possibly help to identify the wreck shown in post #1 (dark colored car). Must not necessarily be a Ferrari, could be something else too. There were also at least 3 Maseratis, 6 Jaguars and 3 Aston Martins at the start, plus Alfa Romeos, Gordinis and AC Bristol. Tavano and Lucienbonnet didn't start with their Ferraris, Tavano because his brand new 500 TRC wasn't completed yet and Lucienbonnet switched to another make. Marcel Massini R# DRIVER TYPE S/N COLOR RESULT 52 François Picard 500 TR Spider Scaglietti 0600 MDTR French blue 8th OA 54 Piero Carini 500 TR Spider Scaglietti 0648 MDTR Light color Fatal crash 56 Fernand Tavano 500 TRC Spider Scaglietti 0696 MDTR Bluemet (red stripe) DNS 58 Antonio Borges Barreto 500 TRC Spider Scaglietti 0694 MDTR White (dark stripe) Fatal crash 60 Adrian Conan Doyle 500 TRC Spider Scaglietti 0692 MDTR Two-tone painted 62 Jean Lucienbonnet 500 TR Spider Scaglietti (Ecurie Nord entry) DNS 64 George Harris 500 TRC Spider Scaglietti 0682 MDTR Yellow (black stripe) 10th OA 78 Willy Mairesse 860 Monza Spider Scaglietti 0606 Yellow (black stripe) DNF 80 Antonio Creus 750 Monza Spider Scaglietti 0572 M Red
It s the number put on the photos and this is what say the owner of "some parts" ( no idea if it s true )
In the very first photo, it looks ike the white rondell on the back part of the car sitting to the very left of the frame might have the number 42 on it.
AGAIN: The photo in post #1 was clearly taken 30 May 1957 at Forez/St. Etienne, France. No doubt at all. Several of the crash photos published in the Reydellet book are similar, but MUCH more detailed, much larger, higher quality and showing different angles. The crash photos in that book also very clearly show the rear part of Carini's car including his race #54, photographed from behind. In front of that #54 tail is the dark colored car shown in post #1 of this thread. The book also has three crystal clear photos showing the white or very light yellow (yes) 500 TRC #58 of Borges Barreto after the accident. This 500 TRC fell into a deep ditch (15 meters or more) and did NOT remain on the street. Borges Barreto's 500 TRC was mainly damaged on the left front, because he basically T-boned Carini's 500 TR. This also corresponds with the accident report published in the book. The dark colored car in the photo of post #1 is NEITHER race #54 nor #58 and it is not a car which was directly involved in the fatal crash between Borges Barreto and Carini. It may not necessarily be a Ferrari and could very well be another car which was crashed earlier than lap 20 of that race. The fatal crash of Carini and Borges Barreto involved a light colored 500 TR and a white or very light yellow 500 TRC. The only piece that can be seen of one of these two cars in post #1 is the tail of #54 on the far left side. BTW, the Reydellet book (published 1989) has the complete entry list including all names, makes, race numbers and the serial numbers of the Ferraris and all the other cars entered too. Marcel Massini
Hi Marcel, You have no result listed for Adrian Conan Doyle's 500TRC s/n 0692MDTR. This car's history is not very well known to me other than it raced at Saint-Etienne in 1957 but then I do not have any race results until the Nurburgring in 1961. You mentioned that it was painted two-toned, but that could mean a dark two-toned. It is hard to tell from this photo, but is there any way that the car pictured could be 0692MDTR? I would be very surprised if the car pictured was not a Ferrari 500TRC. I don't know of any other cars from that period that have a vent like that behind the right front wheel with Scaglietti bodies. -Jarrett
I have a picture of 0692MDTR in 1957 : the car had a large side vent different from the crashed car in the post#1.
