ROSSO CORSA SALES LTD

If this is a UK issue, you might want to post this in the UK section also.


Good luck

 

Chris, have a look at the threads on this very subject in the UK section......

One small question though, if somebody trades fardulently whilst insolvent can they be prosecuted after the fact (like about 2 years after being discharged)?

 

This lot should get you started

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=110747&highlight=rosso
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=111310&highlight=rosso
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=105421&highlight=rosso
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85336&highlight=rosso
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81188&highlight=rosso

 

I have a court order against Richard Lukins and Rosso Corsa Sales dating back to last September when I appointed them agents to sell my Maserati.

I have a great deal of information on Richard Lukins and his companies, in particular his personal mobile phone number should anyone wish to 'discuss' their claims with him. He takes calls from me but up until now I've only phoned during business hours......and no, I haven't seen any of my money yet.

 

Drop Christopher an e-mail and ask him to call you to discuss.

 

my personal opinion is that this thread should not be on here as it seems to be a wich hunt by a few every body that has posted on rosso corsa in the past 3 months are not regular users they seem to use this forum to pull this company down if it was done by regular posters stating facts then fair enough

just my thoughts on this thread

 

Steve - you have a message........

 

Thats because no regular poster would ever deal with RC because they are fully aware of how RC have conducted themselves.

Would you have given RC your car on SOR?

 

1. This thread was started by The Insolvency Service asking for help.
2. It was transfered from the General section to the UK by the sites owner.
3. With the exception of the person who started this thread every other poster is an Fchat regular.
4. The company being investigated is insolvent, which of course means there are strict rules around it's trading activity, there have been a number of threads from Ferrari & Maserati owners who have lost 10's of thousands of pounds over this and they have already posted details of court cases / judgements.

 

I actually think that a thread like this increases F-chat's credibility. Why shouldn't the insolvency service be assisted by f-chat in collecting information? As a consumer it's reassuring to know that the insolvency service take cases like this seriously, hopefully it will result in some of those who have lost their cars/money in being reimbursed for such losses.

 

I wouldn't give anyone my car on SOR

 

I agree i wouldnt either it amazes me how people will give somebody that they dont really know a car of such value if the same person asked them to borrow 5 grand they would not do it but will give them a 70k car to sell

 

So you guys wouldnt give your car to Graypaul or Maranello on SOR like Enzo owners have done?

What do you guys do when you buy a car? Do you bring bags of cash with you on the day you plan to collect the car just in case the dealer runs away with your money? Dont forget the person who gave a £10k deposit on a Maserati to never see the car. I guess you guys dont do deposits either?

If these threads protect consumers (whether regulars or not) then I dont see what the problem is. It's rather sellfish to think that these sort of posts are reserved solely for the regulars.

This thread has been started by the O.R. (a civil servant). He is sharing information which he sees fit to post on here in the interests of the public. He has also asked for assistance in his investigation. Thats hardly a witch hunt, thats him doing his job.

 

No

Don't do deposits,If I want a car,will view it,buy it and take it away same day.

 

Come on... if you are going to think like that then you may as well lock the doors and hide underneath the bed in case you get run over by a bus.

Well each to their own. Although I guess that does restrict you. For instance you wouldnt be able to order a new Ferrari, order a new kitchen, furniture, carpets, buy a property, etc....

 

Steve whilst I do exactly the same thing most people don't,

with a lot of people due to the sums involved they really don't like paying or accepting what's probably over £10k in cash (and I really don't like filling in the bloody declaration forms!) these people tend to pay by bankers draft or wire transfire....which lets face it sometimes don't go through on the same day or in the case of the draft you'll want cleared before you wave goodbye to the car.

I think leaving posts like this up server as a warning to people who don't buy cars on a regular basis and sometimes need a prod in the right direction

 

Just my two penneth'

Anybody who asks for a 10 grand deposit is in the s*** big style with money !..... i would run a mile.

Anybody who gives 10 grand as a deposit has more money than sense... I'm sorry if that has offended somebody.

SOR is a cheap way to appear to have a lot of stock, and make the company look bigger and more successful than it is. If your car disappears overnight ..who you gonna call Ghostbusters?

I would prefer to put up with 20 tyre kickers when selling my car than see some smug b***ard, laughing on the other side of a county court table when i'm trying to retrieve what was mine. Knowing our laws he'll probably end up trading again under another name in 6 months time.

As a business practice I feel that second hand showrooms dealing with SOR stock should be clamped down on by the office of fair trading or other goverment appointed bureau. It wreaks of people who cannot afford to stock an ongoing business, and therefore in my opinion shuld not be allowed to run one.

And before somebody shouts all manufacturesr operate this policy on new cars, I used to work for Ford and it is a completely different ball game.

Cheers

 

dont matter who they are usually in buisness the bigger they are the more they owe it only needs the bank ect to pull the plug and you have lost loads had this done in the late eightys when ABERSOCH LAND AND SEA went bust lost my boat tried everthing even stole it back and got locked up and had to give it back always read the small print on the sale or return stuff they could sell me your car for 10k that you wanted 50k for and there is nothing you can do about it

 

1. Would never buy a new car
2. Kitchen,furniture,carpets etc,deposit if required on credit card,therefore insured.
3. Property,last property I bought was the 20,000sqft Mill that we operate from,viewed it,surveyed it,paid for it.If I did have to hand a deposit over it would have been to my solicitor,whom I can trust not to run off with my money.

 

During my search for a 348 Spider,every time I found a car that was looking good I found the nearest branch of my bank to where the car was located,found out where the owner banked,arranged with my Bank Manager to make sure that the branch of my bank, local to the car was aware that I may be in the next day to transfer the funds/arrange a bank draft to the seller that day.All the time the car would have been with me or one of my colleage's.

 

Same here, I wouldn't take the risk

But I do sympathise with those at loss

 

£10k is now the standard initial deposit for a new V8 Ferrari from a official dealer. An additional £10k is required upon specification making £20k. If its a V12 the initial deposit os now £20k, making £30k deposit in total.

When I bought my new 360 it was £5k & £5k, so I guess you would say I have not a lot of sense. No offence taken .