The Enzo reimagined.... Jim's Ferrari P 4/5 by Pininfarina

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Cheers!!

 

Damn.....been driving around to a lot of auto shows I see. I respect that the fact that you drive your cars....not like some ppl who think they are garage queens.

 

Cheers man.

 

Perusing through my November issue of Roundel magazine (with cover article being the presence of Z8s at Monterey this year), I have a very "Where's Waldo" style sighting of P4/5 on page 53 parked next to a silver Mosler. Just adding to its limitless celebrity...

 

i had a very odd dream last night.. i was driving the P 4/5 and a guy was in a car following me, (i guess it was Jim) and once i parked the car the guy following me got out of his car and chased me down the street screaming something along the lines of "You damn kids always taking me cars!"..

i woke up laughing haha

 

P4/5 officially promoted to "dreamcar"

 

haha i guess so.. all i no is in my dream Jim was SCARY (although i dont no what he even looks like)

but i guess if i owned a car like the P 4/5 and somebody stole it id be mad too

 

only when he is wearing a hat...

 

I've spent a while reading this thread over the last few weeks and have finally made it all the way through. It's quite a read, but very interesting. I like history a lot because I like stories, and that's pretty much what this thread is. It's a story, about a lot of things.

You get to see a bit about a lot of people--Townshend, judge4re, nopssn, etc. To see Peter (cntchds) first talking to, then meeting, Napolis, and to see him chatting with Andrea Pininfarina (I think. Was he active as modena1_2003? By the signature of this post I assumed so: http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=137048479&postcount=4284). As someone roughly Peter's age, that has always stood out to me.

To read all the info, the much-repeated statistics and information (and requests for models, which seemed to out number any other repeat), oft cited by Napolis but frequently supplied by a number of others (judge4re especially, at least early in the thread). To find out, in fact, where the name "Napolis" came from, and that James Glickenhaus, whom I had once known only as the famous rich owner of the P 4/5, directed movies and wears a red hat. To learn where the name "P 4/5" came from; about the P 3/4; about the Lola; I've learned a lot about classic cars reading this thread, and about racing in the 60s--or at least, reading this thread inspired me to Wikipedia a lot of the history. I never really liked classics, actually, until this thread, and I saw them so often I got used to them and started to see the beauty in them.

And in the P 4/5. At the beginning I thought the styling was so-so. Over time, I've variously thought it to be awkward, disproportionate, elegant, cool, classy and supermodern. This is including well before I ever found this thread or even fchat--my opinion of its appearance seems to go through cycles of the above. I've sometimes also found it to be beautiful, the appearance of the P 4/5, but I've never consistently thought so. I find it beautiful at the moment, though. In fact, my opinion of its appearance has cycled during the last few weeks while reading this thread.

Its physical appearance will never be my favorite, although it may be one of my favorites. However, I find it beautiful in a far more significant way: it is the realization of a dream. Other cars (like my favorite, the Reventon) may inspire lust, and be the work of dreams, and groups of talented design teams, and even be masterpieces; cars may be as unique, personalized, and special as one-offs. Other rich car owners may take time out to talk to everyday people, and be nice, courteous, and incredibly generous with their time. Other cars may have be the fulfillment of boyhood dreams, be something someone has wanted and dreamed about for years. However, the P 4/5 seems to stand for more. It was made in the best of ways, by the people who are best at making cars.

More than that, though; most cars are made by companies to make money, and in a sense this was made by Ferrari and Pininfarina to make money as well; that's what most cars are, money-making tools. But P 4/5 isn't, not really--really, it was made by Napolis to be the way he wanted, and regardless of how much I like the styling, I like that he lived the way he wanted to in this car.

After all, isn't that the American dream?




I do have one question, though. What car is that that nopssn has for an avatar? It looks faintly like the Miura, but even more beautiful.

 

The car in his avatar is the 1962 Ferrari 250 GT "Breadvan".

 

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Jim, let me take a guess, drive around Bear Mountain?

 

Mount Pellegrino Hill Climb.

Note F1 rain light.

Last two photo's copyright Rodger Dixon.
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That's really exquisite stuff.

 

Jim,

Do you have any pics of your "P" cars together? I'm interested to see a size comparison. There have been a bit of talk of the size of the Dino vs. an F430. My how things have grown. It would be interesting to see how the "P" cars stack up.

Thanks,

Manny

 

When they're all together I'll take a photo.

 

Had a very nice long drive into the cold. Noticed that in icing conditions dash display reverts to sport mode with a large snow flake on it. Stopped and saw Nick who has some wonderful classics for sale including a fantastic 330 LMB. Nick has designed a spectacular one off that is nearing completion and is very impressive. Great day and hope they keep the road salt off the roads for a bit longer.

 

Great photos, Jim. That's one helluva car.

-G.B.

 

Hey Jim, quick question for you, could you explain the reason for having an "F1 Rain Light" I don't really understand how it helps because I don't see any illumination from it...

Thanks

Best

 

In heavy rain/Fog it makes your car more visible from behind enabling other cars to see you and avoid crashing into you.

(It flashes/strobes and is hard to see in photos but in real life is very bright)

 

Thanks!

 

How's the turning radius for the P 4/5 in comparison the Enzo? Any changes?

 

This is new news to me, but this sounds really promising.

 

Only minor due to different sized tires.