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Discussion in '360/430' started by sal123, Jul 26, 2009.

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  1. sal123

    sal123 Rookie

    Dec 1, 2008
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    Hi Guys
    Has anyone had any engine damage on their F430.
    I am currenlty dissmantling an engine with damage to the top of 2 pistons.
    Something has got into the engine but i dont know how.

    Thanks in advance for any response
     
  2. chrmer3

    chrmer3 Formula 3

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    Could it be "pre-cat" from the headers??? Sucked back into the engine....

    Happens on the 360's on occassion..
     
  3. sal123

    sal123 Rookie

    Dec 1, 2008
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    yes , i have heard that but i have been lucky enough to NOT see it
     
  4. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Can you post some pics of the damaged pistons?? :):)

    Wouldnt mind seeing what sort of damage happened. :):)
     
  5. Ricambi America

    Ricambi America F1 World Champ
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    #5 Ricambi America, Jul 27, 2009
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    We've sold F430 pistons, liners, and assorted bits lots of times... all for one reason: manifolds.
     
  6. Miner_31

    Miner_31 Formula Junior

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    Its not common in the F430 but like previously stated the manifolds were to blame. I have also seen one have issues that was overfilled with oil.

    What do you mean something got in the engine?
     
  7. sal123

    sal123 Rookie

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    #7 sal123, Jul 27, 2009
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    Thanks Daniel,

    I think you just got another order from Australia.

    Here are a couple of pictures of the damage,
    There could have been alot more
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  8. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    A foerign object made it into the cylinder and it was probably steel. I have seen many pistons damaged from cat converter matrix material and it is very different.
     
  9. MalibuGuy

    MalibuGuy F1 Veteran

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    #9 MalibuGuy, Jul 27, 2009
    Last edited: Jul 27, 2009
    I have a question regarding "backpressure" from the 430 muffler.

    Do you think it is safer to have the exhaust valves pinned open as this reduces backpressure?

    Owners of CS and F430 and some 360 with the factory sport stradale do pin open the valves for better exhaust notes. But maybe there is a benefit if this helps reduce the pressure that might blow the cat converter matrix backwards into the cylinder?
     
  10. SonomaRik

    SonomaRik F1 Veteran

    #10 SonomaRik, Jul 27, 2009
    Last edited: Jul 27, 2009
    what type of steel would make it into there, and wouldn't it be tiny and often to cause that kind of damage?
     
  11. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    :eek::eek:

    Thanks for putting me off buying a 360/430 Brian! :D:D
     
  12. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Wouldn't keep me from buying one. I have never ever seen a stock 360 kept in good running condition eat its cat.
     
  13. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Without doubt the best thing you can do is leave it the way Ferrari built it. Backpressure does not cause that.
     
  14. carcommander

    carcommander Formula 3

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    +1 modifing a Ferrari is frought with peril.....to your wallet.
     
  15. mgv1

    mgv1 Formula Junior

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    Is the metal tip of the spark plug still attached. I had a similar looking problem with a jaguar engine once. Wrong plug temp selection or detonation can cause the plug to breakdown and shed components.
     
  16. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Very good sir!! Cause I am QUITE partial to a CS or a 430. :eek::eek:
     
  17. MalibuGuy

    MalibuGuy F1 Veteran

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    Thasnks for your advice. Will do!
     
  18. bobby355

    bobby355 Karting

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    Are you able to ever spot back pressure? does it make a specific sound of some sort? How do you find out whether this is happening or not?

    Thx.

    Bobby
     

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