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Old 11-06-2009, 02:46 PM
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I'm not happy that F1 lost another team but...
...has anyone noticed that Toyota for 9 seasons has been a black hole for F1 careers?

Salo
McNish
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R. Schumacher
and at the moment Trulli, Glock and Koby don't have 2010 deals?

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Old 11-07-2009, 02:41 AM
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I'm not happy that F1 lost another team but...
...has anyone noticed that Toyota for 9 seasons has been a black hole for F1 careers?

Salo
McNish
Zonta
Panis
Da Matta
R. Schumacher
and at the moment Trulli, Glock and Koby don't have 2010 deals?

"Once you join this family there aint no gettin out."
It's fair to say besides Salo maybe, the rest are pretty much crappy drivers. Only Glock and Koby seem sto stand out there in the pack.
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Old 11-07-2009, 03:13 AM
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It's fair to say besides Salo maybe, the rest are pretty much crappy drivers..
I know somebody who won't be very happy with you....
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Old 11-07-2009, 11:47 AM
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It's fair to say besides Salo maybe, the rest are pretty much crappy drivers. Only Glock and Koby seem sto stand out there in the pack.
Actually most of them are crap drivers, including Salo.

Which is why most of them ended up in Le Mans racing and DTM.

PS: I've met Salo in person and he is a great guy and I'm proud to have a F1 car model signed by him, but let's be realistic here about talent.

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I know somebody who won't be very happy with you....
Carol?

Isobel, your new avatar, looks almost like you're standing at Canada corner at RA. But I think it is not, right?
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Old 11-07-2009, 06:43 PM
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Toyota has made a courageous but brave decision.

From a purely sporting point of view, their foray into F1 was a complete failure. It was better to pull the plug.

There were plenty of resources, but no sense of purpose.

A F1 team cannot be run by concensus like a Japanese corporation: you need forcefull individuals, and no 'salary-men'.

Every time Toyota had someone breaking the company's rules, he was spat out like an undesirable. Toyota lost a few talents like that.

The conclusion is that they were just not cut for the job, entered F1 with excessive naivety, the wrong management structure and probably too much money.
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Old 11-08-2009, 06:48 PM
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Carol?

Isobel, your new avatar, looks almost like you're standing at Canada corner at RA. But I think it is not, right?
Bingo for both!
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Bingo for both!
Tadaa!

During my 3 day Skip Barber class at RA I crashed just after the Toyota bridge. Bent the front suspension and lost my nose. Anyway, the car was driveable and so they told me to drive it back to the pits. After a few corners it felt so good to me again, that I completely forgot what happened. Then I braked hard for Canada corner and all went well. Until I arrived back at the pits where they gave me a mouthful. Not for the accident, but for going full speed into Canada corner with a car whose state was unknown. I felt really dumb at that point.
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Old 11-08-2009, 07:17 PM
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Tadaa!

During my 3 day Skip Barber class at RA I crashed just after the Toyota bridge. Bent the front suspension and lost my nose. Anyway, the car was driveable and so they told me to drive it back to the pits. After a few corners it felt so good to me again, that I completely forgot what happened. Then I braked hard for Canada corner and all went well. Until I arrived back at the pits where they gave me a mouthful. Not for the accident, but for going full speed into Canada corner with a car whose state was unknown. I felt really dumb at that point.
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