Go Back   FerrariChat.com > Model Specific Discussions > 612/599

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #201  
Old 11-19-2009, 12:37 PM
jhietter jhietter is offline
Rookie
Not Subscribed
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 15
I love those renderings but recent ferraris haven't been focused in the direction of "throw-back" styling. Thinking about it more, it would make sense for this to be called a GTO if it is based of the 599XX because of the car's racing focus. Plus, it fits the GTO name in overall design, a race ready, front engined V12 with similar body proportions to the 250 GTO. The more I think about it, the 599XX appears to be ferrari's interpretation of a modern day 250 GTO.
Reply With Quote
  #202  
Old 11-19-2009, 01:15 PM
Drive550PFB's Avatar
Drive550PFB Drive550PFB is offline
Formula 3
Silver Subscribed
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,835
Quote:
Originally Posted by George330 View Post
No dealer will "confirm" at this stage, simply because Head Office has not launched the car. I guess we all have to wait one more month...Let's at least hope the car is worth it!!
If it is HALF as good as we have discussed here, then it will be worth it. You will have, maybe, the best car in the world in your garage.
Reply With Quote
  #203  
Old 11-19-2009, 03:45 PM
SoCCieBon's Avatar
SoCCieBon SoCCieBon is offline
Formula 3
Silver Subscribed
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Europe
Full Name: Marc
Posts: 1,647
Quote:
Originally Posted by George330 View Post
This is not accurate. The internet boards are NOT responsible for the "name saga" and as far as I am concerned the English-speaking press (can't vouch for any other magazines) has not written a single article on the matter...The name "599 GTO" came from 2 sources INSIDE Ferrari, plus a host of authorized dealers around Europe that have taken deposits and produced contracts with "599 GTO" written on them.

Ferrari can always claim that they never meant to call the new car a GTO, but it would decimate the credibility of their dealers who would then have to return a few million Euros in deposits (I would take a slot for the Enzo-replacement in exchange!). I don't know of a single credible company that would allow its dealers to take sizeable deposits for a product that does not and will not exist. I may be wrong but I think the car will be called a GTO
+1!

First of all. I spoke with a mechanic in the ferrari factory about the 599 GTO. The mechanic smiled, confirmed and told me it will be produced in 2010.

Second, there was a dealer representative with me during this tour who told me that he had the first information on 8 th sept 2009 the day before the world premiere of the 458 Italia. It was during a dealership in Maranello.


Third, I heard serious information from the manager of Ferrari West Europe about the 599 GTO. You can get information via PM. You can also call this dealer:

http://www.dealer.ferrari.com/dealer...huis/index.php Ask for Marc ( no it's not me...)

So I am 95% sure it will be a "GTO"...
Reply With Quote
  #204  
Old 11-19-2009, 04:43 PM
Scuderia980 Scuderia980 is offline
Formula 3
Not Subscribed
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Mountains--Colorado
Full Name: Dave
Posts: 1,581
Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCCieBon View Post
+1!

First of all. I spoke with a mechanic in the ferrari factory about the 599 GTO. The mechanic smiled, confirmed and told me it will be produced in 2010.

Second, there was a dealer representative with me during this tour who told me that he had the first information on 8 th sept 2009 the day before the world premiere of the 458 Italia. It was during a dealership in Maranello.


Third, I heard serious information from the manager of Ferrari West Europe about the 599 GTO. You can get information via PM. You can also call this dealer:

http://www.dealer.ferrari.com/dealer...huis/index.php Ask for Marc ( no it's not me...)

So I am 95% sure it will be a "GTO"...
i think we're all getting too hung up on a name..whatever it ends up being called, i'm sure it will be one wicked machine...
Reply With Quote
  #205  
Old 11-19-2009, 05:36 PM
tazandjan's Avatar
tazandjan tazandjan is offline
F1 Rookie
Rossa Subscribed
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Full Name: Terry H Phillips
Posts: 4,060
Dave- Affirmative. Ferrari has a habit of woofing all of us. Remember the F60? Somehow came out the Enzo after a few F60 magazine covers. No telling what they will do. 430 evolves to 450, right? Whoops, 458 Italia. Who knows? They can play games with all kinds of numbers. Individual cylinder displacement (400 = 4.8 liter V12), displacement and number of cylinders (376, 458), displacement alone (430, 550/575M, etc), and made up numbers (612, 5.75 liter, rounded up to 6 liter, V12), 250 LM (actually 275 ccs/cylinder except for the prototype), anniversary year (F40, F50), mix displacement and cylinders with historical name (288 GTO). No predicting what the eventual name will be.

Taz
Terry Phillips

Last edited by tazandjan; 11-19-2009 at 05:37 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #206  
Old 11-19-2009, 05:43 PM
SoCCieBon's Avatar
SoCCieBon SoCCieBon is offline
Formula 3
Silver Subscribed
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Europe
Full Name: Marc
Posts: 1,647
Quote:
Originally Posted by tazandjan View Post
. Ferrari has a habit of woofing all of us.
It's the media, not Ferrari.
Reply With Quote
  #207  
Old 11-19-2009, 08:26 PM
Cozmic_Kid's Avatar
Cozmic_Kid Cozmic_Kid is offline
Formula 3
Silver Subscribed
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Denmark
Full Name: B. Frandsen
Posts: 2,304
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michiel Mobiel View Post
I agree. They could give me a call. I'd be happy to work with them.
It's a beauty
Reply With Quote
  #208  
Old 11-19-2009, 08:26 PM
Cozmic_Kid's Avatar
Cozmic_Kid Cozmic_Kid is offline
Formula 3
Silver Subscribed
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Denmark
Full Name: B. Frandsen
Posts: 2,304
Quote:
Originally Posted by thecheddar View Post
I think everyone is presuming this car will be called a "GTO", which to me is hugely unlikely. Ferrari never names their cars what the press or internet boards think they will. The last time anyone knew a name in advance was the 348.

Also, since it's reported to be a track-focused product, I wouldn't expect anything remotely resembling the original. As much as we'd all like a modern 250 GTO, wind tunnels and modern aero science dictate something very different. I'd say the photoshopped 599XX is far more likely a shape for track/race use than any more elegant design.
I have been wondering that myself, if it would be called GTO. So I totally see your point
Reply With Quote
  #209  
Old Yesterday, 04:08 AM
cridom60 cridom60 is offline
Karting
Not Subscribed
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: brive . france
Full Name: dominique
Posts: 199
again, some "news" from press magazin and car web site : http://www.cartech.fr/news/ferrari-599-gto-39710881.htm

In fact they don't know anything, the "think" that Ferrari will launch something in Geneva, no more!
Reply With Quote
  #210  
Old Yesterday, 11:24 AM
TrojanHorse's Avatar
TrojanHorse TrojanHorse is offline
Formula Junior
Rossa Subscribed
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Texas
Full Name: Paul
Posts: 258
Quote:
Originally Posted by Drive550PFB View Post
If it is HALF as good as we have discussed here, then it will be worth it. You will have, maybe, the best car in the world in your garage.
That is exactly what has me soooo excited about this car.

I've said for sometime now, if it turns out as generally forecast--approx 1500 kilos, 675 +/- hp, super fast 2, bigger/stronger brakes, tighter suspension and more aggressive styling to boot--I believe it may well be the best production road car in the world. Well, best at least for a price under $1 m + .

A space is ready in my garage already!
Reply With Quote
Non-Sponsor Ads
  #211  
Old Yesterday, 02:48 PM
SoCCieBon's Avatar
SoCCieBon SoCCieBon is offline
Formula 3
Silver Subscribed
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Europe
Full Name: Marc
Posts: 1,647
Quote:
Originally Posted by cridom60 View Post
In fact they don't know anything, the "think" that Ferrari will launch something in Geneva, no more!
No, that is reality. In january presentations to loyal customers in Maranello.
Reply With Quote
  #212  
Old Yesterday, 03:34 PM
Drive550PFB's Avatar
Drive550PFB Drive550PFB is offline
Formula 3
Silver Subscribed
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,835
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scuderia980 View Post
i think we're all getting too hung up on a name..whatever it ends up being called, i'm sure it will be one wicked machine...
Actually, there is a lot in a name. Ferrari has produced the 250 GTO and the 288 GTO. Both of these cars were produced to be street-legal race cars, and were homologated. This means that some fancy sanctioning body decided that these cars could compete in a race series--and that they needed to be produced in sufficient quantities to be a street car. I don't know the actual number, but I think the 250 GTO had less than 40 cars produced (which qualified for sufficient numbers at that time.)

The 288 GTO produced 200 cars, which was required for Group B racing--and I think--not sure--the Porsche 959 was in this category.

But the issue of the name is IMPORTANT. Ferrari has, to my knowledge, produced less than 250 cars with the GTO nomenclature--and the nomenclature carries with it a very specific pedigree and a very specific cache. More importantly, it suggests that a governing body will certify its entry into some racing series.

This is why I have objected to the casual observers who say that the name is not important. Generally, it is not important unless the letters "GTO" are after it.
Reply With Quote
  #213  
Old Yesterday, 04:12 PM
tundraphile tundraphile is offline
Formula 3
Not Subscribed
 
Join Date: May 2007
Full Name: A.B.
Posts: 1,386
250GTO, 39 cars
288GTO, 272 cars

If they were to produce a 599GTO, my guess production would be about the same as the Enzo, so 400-ish.
Reply With Quote
  #214  
Old Yesterday, 08:57 PM
snowblindfriend snowblindfriend is offline
Rookie
Rossa Subscribed
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: West Texas
Posts: 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by champagne612 View Post
The buyer / driver should have to qualify to own it.
Doug,

No offense, but "qualified drivers only" is awfully gimmicky. This is a "requirement" that cheesed out Mustangs are sold with to make guys feel like they are buying something others can't. A half million dollar Ferrari would never have a stipulation like this.

Respectfully-
SBF
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:47 AM.


FerrariChat.com has no association with Ferrari S.p.A.
vB Ad Management by =RedTyger=

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.