LAMBORGHINI BATTE FERRARI

[prospero]

Yes, it sucks. But it seems like we had to admit, when it comes to production cars the Ferrari just can't keep up with Lamnorghini. (Enzo not includet - when it was launched the customers were selected by the factory)

It was like this 30 years ago (see picture of RUOTECLASSICHE test below) :




And since then not much seems to have changed :
(exerpt from a post on this forum of ferrari fan "bert308")

Here is the complete list of lap times from the same guy that drove the C GT,
credit for this list goes to the members of www.nurburgring.nl :

Porsche Carrera GT 7.40 (1-2004)
Techart-Porsche GT street 7.43 (8-2001)
Pagani Zonda S 7.44 (7-2002)
Porsche 996 GT2 7.46 (6-2001)
Porsche 996 GT3 RS 7.47 (3-2004)
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup 7.49 (2-1999)
Lamborghini Murciélago 7.50 (6-2002)
BMW M3 CSL 7.50 (8-2003)
Lamborghini Gallardo 7.52 (12-2003)
Mercedes SLR McLaren 7.52 (6-2004)
Porsche 996 GT3 7.54 (6-2003)
Porsche 996 Turbo 7.56 (6-2000)
Ferrari Challenge Stradale 7.56 (2-2004)
Lotec 993 Turbo 7.57 (5-1998)
Porsche 996 GT3 8.03 (8-1999)
Lamborghini Diablo GT 8.04 (7-2000)
Ferrari 575M Maranello 8.05 (12-2002)
Ferrari 550 Maranello 8.07 (6-1998)
Lamborghini Diablo SV 8.09 (12-1997)
Ferrari 360 Modena 8.09 (10-1999)
Honda NSX-R 8.09 (8-2002)
Chrysler Viper GTS 8.10 (10-1997)
Donkervoort D8 180R 8.10 (3-2001)
Mercedes SL 55 AMG 8.12 (4-2002)
Lotus Esprit Sport 350 8.13 (5-1999)
Dodge Viper SRT-10 8.13 (10-2004)
AC Schnitzer M3 CLS III 8.16 (11-1997)
Porsche 996 Carrera 8.17 (1-1998)
Porsche 996 Carrera 8.17 (10-2001)
Aston Martin V12 Vanquish 8.17 (1-2003)
Ferrari F355 8.18 (6-1997)
BMW Z8 8.18 (8-2000)
Chevrolet Corvette Com.Edi 8.18 (9-2003)

[Fezhead]

Originally Posted by prospero

Yes, it sucks. But it seems like we had to admit, when it comes to production cars the Ferrari just can't keep up with Lamnorghini. (Enzo not includet - when it was launched the customers were selected by the factory)

It was like this 30 years ago (see picture of RUOTECLASSICHE test below) :




And since then not much seems to have changed :
(exerpt from a post on this forum of ferrari fan "bert308")

Here is the complete list of lap times from the same guy that drove the C GT,
credit for this list goes to the members of www.nurburgring.nl :

Porsche Carrera GT 7.40 (1-2004)
Techart-Porsche GT street 7.43 (8-2001)
Pagani Zonda S 7.44 (7-2002)
Porsche 996 GT2 7.46 (6-2001)
Porsche 996 GT3 RS 7.47 (3-2004)
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup 7.49 (2-1999)
Lamborghini Murciélago 7.50 (6-2002)
BMW M3 CSL 7.50 (8-2003)
Lamborghini Gallardo 7.52 (12-2003)
Mercedes SLR McLaren 7.52 (6-2004)
Porsche 996 GT3 7.54 (6-2003)
Porsche 996 Turbo 7.56 (6-2000)
Ferrari Challenge Stradale 7.56 (2-2004)
Lotec 993 Turbo 7.57 (5-1998)
Porsche 996 GT3 8.03 (8-1999)
Lamborghini Diablo GT 8.04 (7-2000)
Ferrari 575M Maranello 8.05 (12-2002)
Ferrari 550 Maranello 8.07 (6-1998)
Lamborghini Diablo SV 8.09 (12-1997)
Ferrari 360 Modena 8.09 (10-1999)
Honda NSX-R 8.09 (8-2002)
Chrysler Viper GTS 8.10 (10-1997)
Donkervoort D8 180R 8.10 (3-2001)
Mercedes SL 55 AMG 8.12 (4-2002)
Lotus Esprit Sport 350 8.13 (5-1999)
Dodge Viper SRT-10 8.13 (10-2004)
AC Schnitzer M3 CLS III 8.16 (11-1997)
Porsche 996 Carrera 8.17 (1-1998)
Porsche 996 Carrera 8.17 (10-2001)
Aston Martin V12 Vanquish 8.17 (1-2003)
Ferrari F355 8.18 (6-1997)
BMW Z8 8.18 (8-2000)
Chevrolet Corvette Com.Edi 8.18 (9-2003)

great factoid sheet although the title probably said more about porkers than either L or Fcars. GT3 numbers must be for MK1 as MkII's are sub 8.00 especially in the hands of walty (Walter Rohrl Pcar test driver)

[Fezhead]

I missed the second entry for the 996 GT3 apologise.

[tbakowsky]

It is very much a true tale. It's unfortunate that Ferrari has lost it's ability to build a real word beating supercar in the same price range as a Lambo. The Enzo beats them all except for possiably the Zonda..but you really can't call the Enzo a production car.

Ferrari builds so damn fine cars..but they are not the fastest things out there. And to be perfectlt honest they are not very well put together either.
Ferrari IMHO has become a status symblo. Far removed from what Ferrari started out as. They have become easy to drive and just plain poserish. I would love to say otherwise but ,it is one of the reasons my Ferrari is now up for sale.

[robiferretti]

04 Z06 lost to a 355 and a m3??? hmmm...seems strange but ok