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Ferrari (348) not accelerating properly (HELP!!)

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  1. vks

    vks Rookie

    Nov 21, 2004
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    Viresh Sharma
    Hi,
    I got a 348 that does not acclerate, it feels like its got limited revs or something, I put my foot down and the engine makes the sound that it should (clutch seems ok and is not slipping is ok) but it wont accelerate, any thoughts or ideas on what or where to look?

    V.
     
  2. Ricambi America

    Ricambi America F1 World Champ
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    Does anything smell funny? Is the parking brake cable stuck on (engaged)? Are you sure the clutch isn't slipping? If you hit the throttle in fourth gear (while rolling), do the revs climb but the car doesn't really accelerate?
     
  3. vks

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    Hey JR,
    Thanks for the reply, there is no strange smell, the brakes seem ok so calipers are not jammed (touched the discs to see if my finger would burn any more on different discs (its ok i have 10 fingers so the test was accurately measured by the OUCH from each wheel)
    If I put my foot down in any gear , it feels like the revs will increase by about 300-500rpm and then stays constant and the car will not accelerate.

    Really confused and dont want to take it back to the garage again, got messed around by them and then a whopping £5k for nothing, they even charged me for the times when they were "thinking" of what to do next.

    Help me.. please.

    V.
     
  4. vks

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    and nothing smells funny and the parking brake is off as well, tested by engaging and disengaging at low speed and could feel that the parking brake was not the issue

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  5. andrewg

    andrewg F1 Rookie
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    Take the car to Verdi Ferrari, although it does sound like the handbrake's stuck on or something similar. And no garage should charge "thinking time" diagnosis yes, thinking no, thats why you pay an expert to do these things
     
  6. vks

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    Thanks I will do, I will give them a call on Monday.

    Have you had any dealing with Rosso Corsa?? as they are the ones that charged me for the "thinking time" .. it sat up in the air for a few days whilst they figured the next plan of action.. and then forgot about me, going all the way to the day when I was supposed to pick the car up.. with dents in the doors, turnaround was pathetic.. 6 months of them having the car and not even sure about the phone bill that came my way.
    And the work I needed doing .. they forgot the main reasons for me taking the car to them in the first place.

    V.
     
  7. vks

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    This problem happened only 5 days after picking the car up from them, you'd think after the time they had the car and finding the time to stick dents in it, they would have sorted the engine problems out and drove it.

    Extremely annoyed and very let down by Rosso Corsa, though Michael Martin was a good bloke and did try and help out.

    V.
     
  8. andrewg

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    You dont need to say any more ;)

    Karl will sort you out, alot of the Southern UK guys use him with very good results, if he can't fit you in trailer it upto Chester and we'll have a look for you
     
  9. nathandarby67

    nathandarby67 F1 Veteran
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    Does the engine rev freely and normally when the car is in neutral? If this is the case and the restriction only happens when in gear and driving, there is something in the driveline causing drag. Have you tried pushing the car when it is in neutral? If you can't push it, a brake is likely stuck.

    Doesn't sound like transmission or clutch issues. Maybe a broken engine mount that lets the engine drop enough to bind a driveshaft?
     
  10. dakharris

    dakharris Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Were the air and fuel filters changed? Sounds like it's not getting enough fuel. If not a filter, then maybe a blockage in one of the fuel lines?
     
  11. vks

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    I hope its not the engine mounts they were all changed, the fuel filters and air filter were changed by Rosso Corsa (well at least they charged me for it) air filter does not look changed though.))

    I feel so let down by Rosso Corsa they spent all that time and should have ideally looked at and rectified any fuel line problems, whilst they were whacking the crap outta my car and sticking a few dents in it, when I complained my response was "ok I will let Richard know"

    Did I get a call from him? NO!

    To be fair though, Michael Martin did call for a follow up, once again.. a nice bloke!

    £5k spent and the car is worse than when I gave it to them, go figure!
     
  12. vks

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    And I am one of the guys that tried living the dream, with only the funds that I could have.. and even to the point where I sold my soul to the devil to get that car.

    Do people out there really think that as soon as they meet someone that owns a ferrari that they can charge way over the odds.

    I asked repeatedly for an estimate for the car, and was never given one. Sorry to you all this is beginning to sound like a moan.

    If you do love your car, and want it done right.. without the dents that you'll find on collection.
    Then I suggest somewhere else... And I am trying to find that place.. advice is welcomed!

    V.
     
  13. nathandarby67

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    So does the engine rev freely and normally in neutral?

    Can you push the car in neutral...does it roll easily?

    With more info hopefully we can start eliminating possibilities for your problem.
     
  14. vks

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    hi,
    Yes, it pushes ok.

    Some background on the problem though, I was driving it perfectly for about 1.5hours, got out of the car a few times to go to some shops, the third time I tried starting, it revved freely but then when I tried to drive it, it felt like I was pulling something. Each time I changed gear I would increase slightly in revs, and slightly in speed, but foot fully down it didnt behave, changing up or down in gear would just make more or less noise and the same in revs but speed would not increase by more than about 15 mph.. It just happened without any warnings from the previous times I was driving it, an hour or so before that I was crusing down at 60mph plus.
     
  15. PAP 348

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    Just to quickly chime in here,i think you have a worn clutch brother. A quick and easy check to do is to pull the handbrake on hard,then put the car in 4th gear and try and drive off. If the car stalls,then the clutch is still ok. :) If the car sits there,driving on the spot so to speak,the clutch is worn :( Check it out and let us know :)
     
  16. vks

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    would a clutch change a cars performance so quickly? I thought it would be a gradual decrease in effectiveness in the clutch?

    It was working fine all day and then it just went odd all of a sudden.

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  17. MarkCollins

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    Are you sure it's running on all 8 cylinders? maybe only one bank is working? possibly Coil, Coil amplifier or fuel pump issues to one side. I've driven a 348 on one bank and it doesn't feel that bad, just way down on power
     
  18. Michael B

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    I think Mark here above has it.

    I ran my car once on one bank. Felt as smooth as ever, but had a huge lack of power.

    Check ECU connections, check spark, check coil. I read through this whole thread thinking "Its running on one bank."
     
  19. plugzit

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    Check for exhaust restriction. A broken catalytic converter will plug the exhaust and prevent revving.
     
  20. No Doubt

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  21. SFchallenge

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    Oh yes, Viresh. I understand how you feel when one of those crap mechanics dealt with you. It sounds like slipping clutch to me. The oil seals are worn & oil/grease gets thrown onto the clutch plate causing slippage & power loss.

    It's alright, you can still drive it but it'll be slow. Open the engine lid & look under the airfilter box then look for any signs of black grease thrown around the sides on the gearbox/"clutch pumpkin" near the exhaust. If not, could be one of those banks being shut down.

    348 is an old car so there's always some hiccups but find a good workshop, spend some bad money & it should work well. Replace all those battery cables (+/-) even if they look good. Poor connection causes a lot of problems.

    Let us know.
     
  22. MarkCollins

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    if it is coil or amplifier, I think I still have some here you are welcome to, if not I can highly recommend you talk to Mick at QV in Ascot they have large stocks of secondhand spares for 348's
     
  23. MarkCollins

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    Sorry forgot, it could also be Crank Sensor or ECU if a bank of cylinders isn't firing
     
  24. vks

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    Hi,
    Its been bad weather here since last night and will look for oil etc on wednesday and post back.

    I got a call from Karl Verdi today (thanks to whoever escalated this problem to him) and he was very sympathetic and spoke to me a little while to ascertain the problem and asked for me to bring it down to him when possible, as he has done in the past, any time i got a problem he is always around to help.. Richard.. another story meets you when you drop your car off and then is never around or in a rush to get away from you when you ask him why its taken just over 6 months to get a service and some warranty work done.. all that time.. and he screwed me out of my warranty cover period and now cant claim..

    PLEASE ANYONE THAT READS THIS>> DO NOT USE ROSSO CORSA!
     
  25. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Have you had any "check engine" or "slow down" light come on? When you put the key in the ignition and turn it the on possition, but not start the car, do all the lights come on? You should see all of the lights illuminate on the instrument pannel. What you are looking for is to make sure someone hasn't unplugged some lights in the dash trying to be sneeky.

    You can try to unplug the Cat Temp ECU's and see what that does. But before you do that have a look at the connections for the Mass Air Flow Sensors. Check to see that they are clean and connected properly.
     

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