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Ferrari corporate forcing Rob to shut down F-chat...

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by Piton, Aug 11, 2008.

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  1. Piton

    Piton Karting

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    ...so say the whispers in the wind.

    No word on the final "doomsday" date yet.
     
  2. rmk

    rmk Formula 3

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    sup mako
     
  3. Piton

    Piton Karting

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    Not much, but very shocked by the news. Typical Ferrari legal nonsense in action, can't believe they'd go after a site that supports them and doesn't on the surface seem to infringe on any copyrights.

    Crazy.
     
  4. LamboLover

    LamboLover F1 Rookie

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    I'm hoping this is a joke. What on this site could possibly offend Ferrari?
     
  5. SFchallenge

    SFchallenge F1 World Champ

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    This would be very sad if true but Rob can always re name it to "Fchat" since we're always referring it to the shortname.

    Porsche Stuttgart did do this to our local club long ago, citing infringement of brand blah blah blah. Then tookover & it's all good now but they have full control over it.
     
  6. Blue4reF1

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    Noooo. This can't be true. :(
     
  7. jd121

    jd121 Formula Junior

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    Your Kidding right. :(
     
  8. RacerX_GTO

    RacerX_GTO F1 World Champ
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    #8 RacerX_GTO, Aug 11, 2008
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  9. Greg Z

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    LOL, This almost doesn't surprise me. Typical Ferrari BS! Its why I plan on never buying a NEW Ferrari just so I don't support them. I will only buy used, but yet I would buy a new Lambo if I could.
     
  10. GrigioGuy

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    "Whispers"? Or deliberately spread rumors from a certain pack of known jokers and ex-sponsors?

    I note that the other board is now no longer public....
     
  11. mattymouse33

    mattymouse33 F1 Rookie

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    This would be devastating to me if true, not that i believe it.
     
  12. CornersWell

    CornersWell F1 Rookie

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    #12 CornersWell, Aug 11, 2008
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    Generally, yes. Remember FML used to have the prancing horse logo? No more. For years, SpA has been going after replica manufacturers even going to the point of having cars crushed. Mattel/Hot Wheels is still the only toy maker with a license. SpA wants to get PAID! Frankly, I'm a little surprised that it took them this long to take notice. I guess they had their resources too focused on things like their sales contracts and Classiche to do anything until now.

    I'm also certain there's a way for this site to continue operations.

    Oh, and why is this in the Lamborghini forum? Shouldn't this be in the general forum?

    CW
     
  13. henryr

    henryr Two Time F1 World Champ
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    looks like ferrari has better lawyers than part suppliers
     
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  14. Devilsolsi

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    BMW did this as well to BMWm5, they renamed it to M5board.
     
  15. WJHMH

    WJHMH Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I call BS, bitterness must be a hard pill to swallow.
     
  16. FredParoutaud

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    Well if you charge for something...and call it "Ferrari-" anything...I'm not surprised.

    Fred
     
  17. WILLIAM H

    WILLIAM H Three Time F1 World Champ

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    or Ferrarichat.com

    they have no claim on the word Ferrarichat :)
     
  18. CornersWell

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    #18 CornersWell, Aug 11, 2008
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    As a lawyer, I think that while you are technically correct, a judge looking at that defense would ultimately reject it. It incorporates the word Ferrari and it's a Ferrari-oriented site (ironically, much of the non-Ferrari content is subscription-based, too). It's also "The Online Ferrari Community" according to the upper right of the page. I think Rob would have some issues if SpA chose to bring a cease and desist order.

    CW
     
  19. JohnnyS

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    That means that anyone that uses the word Ferrari in any form is in violation. Buzzzzzzzzzz. Not going to happen (IMO). It will go back to exactly what is in violation to Ferrari's copyright and trademarks, exactly as they are written. My company had a trademark issue and got around it by simply changing the shape of the first letter in the company name. Up held in the courts so I know there is absolutely no wiggle room when it comes to trademarks. They are exactly as submitted, written and approved.
     
  20. CornersWell

    CornersWell F1 Rookie

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    You may well be correct. However, I've seen some strange things when it comes to these matters over the years.

    CW
     
  21. 2NA

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    This is beginning to look like another "My Lambo was reported stolen..........................." thread :(
     
  22. sparta49

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    That makes sense. They don't see a cent when you buy parts from them since all the parts for these cars are readily available at Autozone.
     
  23. wax

    wax Five Time F1 World Champ
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    Complete crock of ****.

    This is yet another one of Gustan's impractical jokes, with an old hater* of FerrariChat being the delivery boy to FerrariChat this time.

    As Rob has indicated elsewhere on threads I'm not going to bother with, Ferrari S.p.A. has been aware of FerrariChat for many years.

    Bye- bye, "Piton" - who will get a 2-year ban, then, just to rub salt in his gaping maw, have said ban renewed every 2 years.

    *Using a different identity, the same individual was permabanned 4 1/2 years ago.
     
  24. rob lay

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    #24 rob lay, Aug 11, 2008
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    FerrariChat.com has been around 8 years, there simply requires common sense on both sides. We have never used the prancing horse, other protected trademarks, or even the 'Ferrari' font. Ferrari has been aware of FerrariChat.com since the beginning and overall I have heard personally from Ferrari and through insiders they are fine and pleased with us. They know how to contact me personally if issues and I think the community would be pleased to hear Ferrari respects our community and freedoms to communicate. +1 for Ferrari. Any intervention has been minor, like recently requesting that specs of the California be removed before the official release date. That seems reasonable and I fully complied. The Ferrari organization will certainly change over the years and their position may change, but from early on through several years ago when Jean Todt passed along a message to add 'FerrariChat.com has no association with Ferrari S.p.A.' to each page they have been very professional and appreciative.

    We do have alternate domain names, currently using www.thebestemployee.com and I have about 20 others without the Ferrari name that could be turned on quickly. Why would Ferrari go after us at this point? Are they going after the 10 other Ferrari forums, Ferraris-Online, Ferrari Market Letter, Ferrari Owners Club, and etc? FerrariChat.com is basically a club, actually the largest Ferrari club in world by tens of thousands. Think if Ferrari went after the FCA or FOC and what kind of impact it would have on their business to tick off that many of its enthusiasts. For those clubs we're are talking thousands, for FerrariChat.com we're talking over 60,000.

    <removed by Rob>

    I have not been legally contacted, although for 8 years I have heard every rumor from A to Z and nothing has ever come from it. Usually common sense rules out in business and there are mutually beneficial solutions, so why would they go down a mutually damaging path? All is cool, with 60k users there are a few disgruntled and jealous users that lead to a headache here and there. Anyone think my job is easy and want to take it over? :D
     
  25. JH

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    #25 JH, Aug 11, 2008
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    Application sent ... haha
     

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