Euro Grill Dimensions for 85 QV

Does anyone have a template for the vertical and horizontal bars of the QV Euro Grill? I really don't want to trade one of my body limbs to purchase one of these so I think I will try to make one.

If no one has a template, would someone be so kind at to give me some measurements and close up picks.....or make a template

BTW, this grill has the 4 horizontal bars, lower 3 are all same length and upper is a bit shorter. There are 7 vertical bars. All look similar except for the bracket locations.

This would be a great resource if we could get this template posted for use by everyone who can then take it to a fab shop!

 

Michael, That helps out a bunch!

I will try to estimate the cost to make and post when I have it.

The verticals look to be the tricky ones here! They are cut at an angle. Will you bare with me for an experiment.....

Can you take a ruler and place flat on one of the horizontal pieces. Then take a protractor and measure the angle from vertical (or from horizontal) of the piece (see diagram). I am also showing 5.5 inches along the vertical (not actually the vertical dimension)...please verify this is how you measured. Could you also provide the spacing between the horizontal slats and a reference measurement of the bottom or top slat to the bottom or top vertical piece. Thanks!

It looks like the grill is completly flat once assembled. Correct? All flat cuts on top and bottom of vertical pieces? Horizontal pieces look like they have 45 deg cuts to shape edges.


I really appreciate you uncovering it again

John
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No Prob. Thanks.

I have been continuing my research on this. From what I can tell, it looks like the grill may have some curve to it like my US grill in order to conform to the valence opening. My current plan of attack will be to use one of the horizontal slats from my US grill to trace the template for the horizontals of the euro. I will just shorten them so the fog lights will fit on either side (to your prior measurements). The verticals should be straight forward once I have the angle. The other part on the verticals is the fold over tabs (3 total).

Once the pieces are cut, assembly will be easy. I'm thinking of powder coating with silver color for a nice clean look. Other option is anodize following a powder blast(or bead depending on finish).

I can make some extras. I figure that they would be about $500 / grill. I plan to sub out to a water jet shop to cut pieces out. Keep in mind, may not be exact to a Euro QV grill, but should be really close. That is what i'm going for anyway. No horsie included.

Measurements still needed:
Angle of vert and spacing of horizontal bars (see picture above).
A measure of the amount of curvature (maybe a string across back and measure dist from string to center vertical). That way I can make sure this is as close to the real deal as possible.

thanks again

 

No worries. I appreciate it. Doesn't sound fun but I think you echo what is happening to quite a few of us, including me. I'm trying to take 1 day at a time. Things like this site have been wonderful to help keep mind mind from spinning out of control.

 

A few ways to achieve the "Euro" look.

1) Drill out shocks for US brackets and push bumper in. Still have US Bumper but more of euro profile from side view.

2) Buy aftermarket brackets that achieve the same as above (call John at MACARBON).

3) If you want Euro Bumper with out US Buckteeth look, then fiberglass aftermarket bumper can run $400+ and only slight bracket fab needed to get to fit US brackets. I'll let you know for sure since I will be doing this in about 1 month. Keep in mind, if you change the bumper to Euro, the grill should also be changed as well as passing lights (fog lights) to get the entire front hole filled. Also paint or rubber coating on the bumper. So it does have a bit of a trickle down effect. I'm will be making a Euro QV Grill for mine since the replacement is so expensive.

Cheapest way by far is #1 if you are ok with the look of the US bumper.

 

I'm final stages of gathering info and making templates to make sure it is correct. Made a foam core template from the info I had and some measurements from my old gril. Came out pretty close but needs a few tweaks. Check your PM.

 

I got my Euro Bumper from RennSpeed on EBay. They have some on there now last I looked. The one they sell is threaded so you would have to use bolts into the bumper rather then the other way around (US bumper has bolts imbeded). If you need new brackets, I would suggest MAcarbon ([email protected]). Like I said before, only slight easy mod expected to get the Euro to US bracket mount.

I'm not brave enough to stray from what Ferrari intended on the grill. It can obviously be done as you can see in the pics before.

 

Update on Progress:

I have the grill in CAD so i'm on my way to the CNC Water Jet shop to get a bid. Should turn out very nice. Hopefully the price will be reasonable. I do plan on making multiple copies if anyone is interested.

Keep in mind this is the QV Euro grill and not the 2V Euro grill like Newman has done (a great job at that).

Let me know if you have an interest.

 

You learn a lot about the car in the process. It has been really interesting and fun.

I will basically end up with a euro front on a us QV. should be exactly what I want.

 

Got the quotes back for production of the QV Euro Grill. Will be trying to get a batch in by the end of the month. I've PM'd those who have expressed interest. Anyone else, PM me and let me know.

Thanks,

John

 

I got the final grill pieces back from the shop and assembled one. Here are some pictures. I will be working on assembling these over the next week. Lookin good!
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