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  1. Napolis

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    #1 Napolis, Mar 7, 2009
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  3. Napolis

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    #3 Napolis, Mar 7, 2009
    It really sings now. Here's another video. Note Cavallino Bolts.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOUwGUanLHc
     
  4. 275gtb6c

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    #4 275gtb6c, Mar 7, 2009
    Nice Jim, great sound. Took my 212 out today and pretty much the same sound.

    Nice to see the use 275 dials on the dyno....

    ciao
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  5. Napolis

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    #5 Napolis, Mar 7, 2009
    Good eye!

    Best
     
  6. SilverF20C

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    #6 SilverF20C, Mar 7, 2009
    Sounds very solid. While you had the engine out, was it just refreshed with new seals/gaskets or did you have anything else done that might enhance it?

    Cheers
     
  7. geno berns

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    #7 geno berns, Mar 7, 2009
    Wow, just awesome!
     
  8. Napolis

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    #8 Napolis, Mar 7, 2009
    This video will give you an idea of what we dealt with. We restored her ability to be hand cranked, run on her original mechanical fuel pump, rebuilt and fit her original generator, and various other things.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFuP8A7JeFU

    Best
     
  9. SilverF20C

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    #9 SilverF20C, Mar 7, 2009
    Just too cool. I love that you're putting these cars back into a condition that'll last for many more years of enjoyment and continued history just as you've done with the Dino and others. :)
     
  10. buster bram

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    #10 buster bram, Mar 8, 2009
    Love the videos did you have the engine done in europe or the statesi thought i heard a italian accent ps have you a spare set up with the engine etc for the lounge at home the WIfe would love it!!!!

    sean
     
  11. 3406-kris

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    #11 3406-kris, Mar 8, 2009
    That is really cool, especially the hand cranking bit. You'll have to post a video of it being hand cranked to life!

    BTW, what's a Cavallino bolt?

    Thanks for posting the videos.

     
  12. Napolis

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    #12 Napolis, Mar 8, 2009
    Hi

    The motor and gearbox were restored in Modena as will the entire car.

    In the early days the head of some of the bolts were embossed with the Cavallino.

    Best
     
  13. f308jack

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    #13 f308jack, Mar 8, 2009
    Sweet!

    Played both vids a few times, you must have had a ball running it like that!
     
  14. Bart340

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    #14 Bart340, Mar 8, 2009
    I do not want to spoil the fun but I have to point out that it is NOT the proper way to run a rebuilt engine without loading it properly. Fast idle unloaded and even revving without load glazes the bores in no time which in many cases is not a reversible process. A reputable engine shop would only run the engine on a proper dyno instead of this engine stand.
    Bart340
     
  15. Schatten

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    #15 Schatten, Mar 8, 2009
    wow... I wish modern cars would sound that smooth.
     
  16. Napolis

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    #16 Napolis, Mar 8, 2009
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    This was after the engine was run in slowly for many,many hours, disassembled and inspected, run in again and then run in some more. As this is the shop the factory uses I suspect they know what they're doing.

    Ferrari race engines have to rev all the time under no load. To get a P 4 rolling for example you have to select first with the clutch in, rev quite high until the engine comes on the cam and carefully let the clutch out. If you don't get and keep the revs up you'll stall.

    It's the same situation in Modern Cars with Launch Control. In a Veyron for example you put the car in first gear, keep the clutch in with your left foot by stepping on the brake. Bring the revs to 5.5K with your right foot, the engine is under no load as clutch is in, side step off the brake pedal and and plant your right foot. 10.5 seconds later you've travelled a 1/4 mile.
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  17. SilverF20C

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    #17 SilverF20C, Mar 8, 2009
    Did they happen to engine dyno that at any point? The factory rating is around 125hp n'est pas?
     
  18. Napolis

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    #18 Napolis, Mar 8, 2009
    The factory was a touch optimistic...
     
  19. SilverF20C

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    #19 SilverF20C, Mar 8, 2009
    :D
     
  20. ggjjr

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    #20 ggjjr, Mar 9, 2009
    Jim,
    You did that on purpose. Teasing us, I mean. More information, please.

    George
     
  21. Napolis

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    #21 Napolis, Mar 9, 2009
    002C's engine was on the dino after a previous rebuild but there was a carb issue so we really didn't get a good pull. This time we didn't put it on a dyno. We did put Dino Competizione's engine on a dyno and found the factory's figures optimistic by about 10%. Dino's torque was very good. My guess is that 002C's engine is about 100hp. As she weighs very little that's enough for a very fun driver.
     
  22. tongascrew

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    #22 tongascrew, Mar 9, 2009
    I hope you save the original mouse spring valve gear. I should be displayed in a show case where ever the car goes. The head as it is now alsmost looks naked without all those coils of wire,etc,etc. just one man's opinion tongascrew
     
  23. Napolis

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    #23 Napolis, Mar 9, 2009
    Yes we saved them.

    Cheers
     
  24. SilverF20C

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    #24 SilverF20C, Mar 9, 2009
    I figured he'd share if he wanted to but a little prodding helps sometimes. :)

    Appreciate the insight Jim. From the videos of the drives on youtube, it looks like a lot of fun. I'm sure the experience is surreal with the open elements, sounds and interaction with the steering, shifting, etc....

    Drive on! :)
     
  25. Napolis

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    #25 Napolis, Mar 9, 2009
    She really is a Time Machine.
     
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