Restoration of 1120004

[joe sackey]

Originally Posted by EMILIO

i like both and also some driving discussions, pros and cons and opinions

only pics is boring but only detail discussions would be the same

Yes agreed. I think most good long-running threads that hold people's interest have a bit of everything: pics, historical, and technical items.

[ilconservatore]

Regarding the early and late sport exhaust - are you saying the tips themselves are different and the 'cans' or muffler sections are similar, or is the design altogether different. I'd be willing to work with someone to build a correct system (or several depending on demand) but can an existing setup be modified? No need to reinvent the wheel...
Are the newer exhaust shields available also? I need one for reference for construction details...

[ralfabco]

Originally Posted by EMILIO

i like both and also some driving discussions, pros and cons and opinions

only pics is boring but only detail discussions would be the same

Agreed


I posted on L/P, driving impressions of both the Countach and Miura.

It is good to have members opinions, of different special interest Lamborghini cars.

[joe sackey]

Originally Posted by ilconservatore

Regarding the early and late sport exhaust - are you saying the tips themselves are different and the 'cans' or muffler sections are similar, or is the design altogether different. I'd be willing to work with someone to build a correct system (or several depending on demand) but can an existing setup be modified? No need to reinvent the wheel...
Are the newer exhaust shields available also? I need one for reference for construction details...

Shaun:

I think the essential difference is only in the tips, so whatever sport exhaust system you can get (such as that George Evans or Emilio can provide), can in fact be modified so the tips have no internal cylinder like the black LP400 below as opposed to the red LP400S.

[EMILIO]

Originally Posted by ilconservatore

Regarding the early and late sport exhaust - are you saying the tips themselves are different and the 'cans' or muffler sections are similar, or is the design altogether different. I'd be willing to work with someone to build a correct system (or several depending on demand) but can an existing setup be modified? No need to reinvent the wheel...
Are the newer exhaust shields available also? I need one for reference for construction details...

the current ANSA Sport (from 2000 circa to this day) have again no more internal cilinders

they are built with an inside "megaphone like", i think in the same way as the one on black LP400 (ex Joe S. car)

i asked ANSA guys why the tips were modified, at least, 2 times (since i had a good friend and DD owner that wanted the internal cilinders) and i seem to remember the reason was the internal cilinder version was less durable with current type of unleaded fuel

no need to modify tips

i add a pair of pics to show this (it is from a special ordered clear coated SS muffler, but the thing is the same for the original black painted normal steel material )

if you have other questions i would be happy to answer

[EMILIO]

i found 2 pics of an other customer car (italian countach)

here i think it is easier to see the internal of tips

[mikael82]

Originally Posted by ilconservatore

Another question - are fuel and oil cooler lines braided steel (like modern aeroquip line) or braided cloth? I've found pics of braided cloth used on vapor lines, oil breather unit, etc, but I can't make a definite decision on the cooler and fuel lines. Our originals were heavily modified, so we're unsure how much is original. is there a source for original style hose ends?

At the time I was searching oil cooler hose, some old mechanic used to work in truck service and told me, this hose is "R5" and and this is used in truck power steering at early 80's. These truks had exactly the same couplings.

[EMILIO]

Originally Posted by ralfabco

Agreed

I posted on L/P, driving impressions of both the Countach and Miura.

It is good to have members opinions, of different special interest Lamborghini cars.

and they were a good read to me
not SO many people has driving experience on these old lambos, i think it is good to have some modern impressions

[gamby]

Originally Posted by joe sackey

Yes agreed. I think most good long-running threads that hold people's interest have a bit of everything: pics, historical, and technical items.

The two Countach threads that have stuck around (Cannonball and Ultimate Supercar) are phenomenal threads. So much great info and awesome photos. May they continue to grow.

[joe sackey]

Originally Posted by EMILIO

the current ANSA Sport (from 2000 circa to this day) have again no more internal cilinders

they are built with an inside "megaphone like", i think in the same way as the one on black LP400 (ex Joe S. car)

i asked ANSA guys why the tips were modified, at least, 2 times (since i had a good friend and DD owner that wanted the internal cilinders) and i seem to remember the reason was the internal cilinder version was less durable with current type of unleaded fuel

no need to modify tips

i add a pair of pics to show this (it is from a special ordered clear coated SS muffler, but the thing is the same for the original black painted normal steel material )

if you have other questions i would be happy to answer

These should work perfectly as they retain the original look!

[ralfabco]

Originally Posted by EMILIO

and they were a good read to me

you were not alone.

Quite a few members, jumped up and applauded the special section.





Comments such as the following were repeated:

"This is my favorite section."

I do not hear that too often, with most threads.

Originally Posted by EMILIO

not SO many people has driving experience on these old lambos

agreed

pre 91 cars, are not parked outside of every trendy restaurant.

Originally Posted by EMILIO

i think it is good to have some modern impressions

Yes.

Dominic wrote about a nice article about the SE 30.



I believe Rob does not like stickys too much. The split sections were a flop, with most members. With that, it would be a good idea, to have a special thread, for enthusiast members to comment and give impressions about driving L cars.

[joe sackey]

Originally Posted by ralfabco

I believe Rob does not like stickys too much. The split sections were a flop, with most members.

Gee, and I wonder whose bright idea the split sections were?

And, was it any surprise they failed?

Rob may not like "stickys" (you really mean long-running and very popular Miura and Countach threads don't you?) all that much, but there is room for everything. The destiny of a public forum (as evidenced by the failed split sections fiasco) is determined in great part by participants' desires. You cant control everything and some things will live their natural course, like it or not.

[joe sackey]

Originally Posted by ralfabco

Comments such as the following were repeated: "This is my favorite section." I do not hear that too often, with most threads.

Actually, Ive heard this on multiple occasions with several of the threads in the Lamborghini section, and it all depends on what the user is interested in: technical, driving, historical etc. Also, within the Miura and Countach threads there are multiple detailed driving experiences from multiple participants covering their driving experiences with the cars.

However, if there is a benefit to a special thread for driving experiences only, the solution is simple: start one! I would contribute!

[joe sackey]

Shaun: Im am almost certain 1120004 came with these type Britax seat belts. Let me know if you are aware and I can point you to sourcing them...

[ralfabco]

Originally Posted by joe sackey

Gee, and I wonder whose bright idea the split sections were?

I have no idea.

Go ask the board administrator.

Originally Posted by joe sackey

I would contribute!

No surprise.

The section I mentioned, was for the enthusiast members.

I guess a sponsor could also add his 2 cents ? However, the other board was not set up, with that in mind.

[joe sackey]

The electric mirror control that has been affixed to the middle of the console plate of 1120004 shouldnt be there. By the way ignore the smooth-bezel warning lights, they are for later cars and 1120004 has the correct nut-bezel warning lights.

[joe sackey]

Originally Posted by ralfabco

The section I mentioned, was for the enthusiast members.

I guess a sponsor could also add his 2 cents ? However, the other board was not set up, with that in mind.

So a sponsor cannot also be an enthusiast?? How narrow-minded! Thank goodness, I don't need your approval in particular, to know that I always have been first-and-foremost an enthusiast of these cars, and always will be. That much is established.

[ralfabco]

Originally Posted by joe sackey

So a sponsor cannot also be an enthusiast??

Where did I say that ?

If I did not say that, it cannot be a narrow-minded opinion.

No doubt, quite a few sponsors on this board, are die-hard enthusiasts that participate in different automobile sections.

Originally Posted by joe sackey

I don't need your approval in particular, to know that I always have been first-and-foremost an enthusiast of these cars, and always will be.

Good for you.



I did not mention, your level of enthusiasm for Lamborghini products.

I also did not mention approval or non-approval for your enthusiasm.

The section was set up, with the desire to hear from the typical driver/enthusiast.

The style in the new section, is quite refreshing for several enthusiasts.

[joe sackey]

Originally Posted by ralfabco

The section I mentioned, was for the enthusiast members.

I guess a sponsor could also add his 2 cents ? However, the other board was not set up, with that in mind.

Spare us your back-pedaling. Your post is a self-explanatory jibe at your misguided notion that enthusiast members are exclusive to sponsors, and the difference was raised by you yourself in this very post. Anyone uninitiated reading the post would deduce that the sentiment as far as you are concerned is that sponsors are not enthusiasts.

You have however corrected yourself in the final analysis by noting that "quite a few sponsors on this board are die-hard enthusiasts". That works for me, and I can think of several people that fit that description, myself included.

[ralfabco]

Originally Posted by joe sackey

You have however corrected yourself in the final analysis by noting that "quite a few sponsors on this board are die-hard enthusiasts". That works for me, and I can think of several people that fit that description, myself included.

Thanks for your post.