Gents, On February 10th I won a Lamborghini on ebay. So far so good! I paid the requested deposit within hours via Paypal. The ebay ad listed full payment via certified check. But I requested from seller if I could pay the remaining amount via bank wire transfer for a much quicker, safer and easier payment. Was then told by seller in writing that he should try to get his banking details for me. I repeated my request for his banking details several times via personal ebay messages and then after 4 days I received a different return message: That I should just send a check as per the ebay ad. So I then took time off work the day after, went to my bank, and sent the check. That was on Feb 15th. Now he says the auction is void due to not having received my full payment! He said he also has other interested buyers, probably willing to pay more! He said he would put it back on ebay tomorrow! My ebay feedback is 100% and I really try doing all my business and ebay transaction as smooth and easy for both parties. I have bought other cars on ebay and have had no problems with the sellers at all. What are my options here? Can he void or cancel the deal? I have notified Ebay, so they are looking at it. Would appreciate any info from other ebayers, maybe with similar experiences! Thanks! Cheers, Bjoern
I have a REAL problem buying expensive stuff on ebay unless I am willing to travel with cash in hand to the location of the item and play live and in person... That way you get the item (or title in the case of a car) in hand and you get to see the item and drive it to a safe location for shipping... I just don't trust all the scams on ebay these days! That goes for buyers and sellers btw! Good luck, but if you are not willing to show up at the location of a car you have won with cash in hand (or send a friend who lives close buy to pick it up for you) this is the kind of thing you are going to run in to...
The sad truth is if the seller decides to run away with your money, not much you can do, you need to involve e-bay on this, don't know exactly how much but you might have some recourse through e-bay. who is the seller, dealer of private party? Anytime there is a large transaction on ebay, or for that fact long distance, it's a good idea to clarify with the seller, if they are willing work with a escrow company. My personal policy is if they aren't then walk away from the deal. S
Let's have clarity! Yes my car was on E-Bay, started on 2/10, ended 2/17. Listing specified payment within 7 days of auction end by US Certified Check only! Buyer requested wiring instructions. I directed him to follow the listing's instructions. It has been more than 10 days since auctions end and I have still not received final payment. I have 100% perfect feedback and I take E-Bay auctions very serious. 7 days is 7 days! If I ever get the check it will be sent back unopened immediately and buyers deposit will be returned. I advised that the car will be relisted and he will have the same opportunity as other bidders.
+1 I may be in the minority here, but terms is terms. You sound like an upright chap - if the deposit was stated as non-refundable if the final payment is not received per the terms, then the buyer is out that money if the payment wasn't sent in a timely manner in the way the seller dictates it must be. Sellers dictate terms - not buyers. And if they are binding, they are binding. As a buyer, if you don't like those terms, DON'T BID. It's not your choice to make how the seller should change just to suit you. Jedi
As inflexible as it sounds, 7 days is not an unreasonable time to request payment. Just based on my own experience, I'd cash the check if it comes, and make friends with the buyer. I've always found it best to take the money on the table when it comes to old cars. You could blow a head gasket tomorrow, and then you'd wish you had.
Not only that but the first offer is the best offer, don't ask me why, just turns out that way most of the time.
..................................You got that right,I have bought and sold on Ebay more than a few times, the first time the auction runs is when you get the most bids and the Higher bids, but RatedX is completely Right when it comes to the terms of his Auction, unless he was contacted before the auction ended to discuss a different type payment, the listing specified a certain type of payment with a time limit., Although personally if someone who won a auction of mine and called me wanting to wire transfer the money I would go along with it ,allways take the wire transfer , its better than a check and you can allways open a checking account with a hundred bucks + use that account if you want to keep it separate from your usual accounts.But back to basics, the Auction states clearly type of payment , Good Luck to all involved .
Terms are terms, unless someone is stalling & not acting in good faith. My gut feeling is a higher offer came along after the auction & seller looks for a out. If the buyer was paying a over the top price, you would see a different song sang that has the words a "deal is a deal".
COME ON GUYS. I think you can work this out. Be a little flexible and get the deal done. Sound like the buyer wants it.....because he started the thread and RatedX has been trying to sell for a while. Guys, please. I'm in Connecticut and the car is in New Jersey, if I can help in any way, please let me know. FWIW, When I bought my ebay Countach, I wanted to overnight a check, he wanted wire transfer. We worked it out and I wired the money.
Seller, why are you so inflexible with that timeframe? You do realize that once that post-auction 7 days expires, you relist an auction for another 7 days (previous one was 7 days). So now you're out of a sale AND you have to wait at least another 7 days to hope you find a new seller + giving that new high bidder 7 days to pay (14 days delay total). Doesn't sound like you want to sell it for the price the first auction ended with. I would work with the buyer a little more (maybe over phone rather than emails) to get the transaction done if you're actually interested in selling the car...who knows why you listed it.
seller, youre exactly right. terms are terms and the buyer did not adhere to them. So lemme ask, if you didnt have anyone else interested would you still be acting this way??? buyer, you should have asked the seller if a wire was ok BEFORE your bid. Also since you paid via paypal, go thru them and walk from the seller.
buyer said he sent the check on 15th, what happen to it? Buyer- since the seller has expressed zero appreciation for your interest and effort to buy his car I WOULD definitely back out of this deal, as demanded by Seller, wait till he re-list and bid at lower price hoping to win it. Wtf? if someone is putting significant money into my hands I will show some appreciation.
Dear Lamborghinisti, Sorry ratedx....but you seem like a hard a$$. How about some flexibility. So the guy was late.....big deal. He still wants the car, has money in hand..... You're both on Lchat and can't work this out? Given the last thread, you should be happy to have your car sold ( nothing wrong with it....you just wanted to sell ) Oh....a better offer is firmly in hand...right? Sure.....terms, contracts bla bla bla. We're all people behind all the fancy words...cut some slack and just do the deal. Roy has been known to facilitate these type of transactions...why not ask? He might even do a "special" given that both parties are on this forum. Shamile Freeze...Miami Vice !
Agree 100% with this...in my experiance over the years..more times than not...the first offer is always the best and strongets offer..dont know why, just seems to come up that way..
I have to agree with Seller on this one...yes terms are terms, seller has the right to describe what he wants. I can say from experiance, one thing we are missing here.. I have numerous time buyers hit the buy it now, takes the car off of E-bay, then they attemt to "Negotiate" a differnet deal, thinking it will work as the car is "locked" up with theri small deposit. Buyers forget a few things.. 1) Now the car, if I have to re-list it cause for questions as to WHY..thought it was sold, what happened..? 2) It costs money to sit on the car, everyday money is not in the bank it looses intrest money 3) It costs money to re-list the car again as well