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  1. teegeefla

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    #1 teegeefla, Sep 18, 2011
    I am looking for any info and photos on the 750 Monza that was driven by Jacques Bellesiles in races at Paramount Ranch, Santa Barbara and Pomona in 1957. I believe it was chassis #0582. Thanks.
     
  2. Marcel Massini

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    #2 Marcel Massini, Sep 19, 2011
    March 9, 1957 Raced at the Paramount preliminary race by Bellesiles, placed 4th, painted silver with black stripe

    March 10, 1957 Raced at Paramount by Bellesiles, placed 4th

    April 7, 1957 Raced at Avandaro by Bellesiles, DNF, race #2

    May 16, 1957 Raced at Paramount by Bellesiles, race #222

    July 28, 1957 Raced at Pomona by Bellesiles, placed 8th, race #222, now painted a light color

    October 27, 1957 Raced at Pomona by Bellesiles, race #222

    Sold by Bellesiles April 1959.

    Marcel Massini
     
  3. teegeefla

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    #3 teegeefla, Sep 19, 2011
    Marcel-

    My sincere thanks for the assistance. Are you aware of any images of the car? I have looked through some magazines from that period as well as online sources and have found nothing. The car seems to be a phantom...

    Tom
     
  4. Marcel Massini

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    #4 Marcel Massini, Sep 19, 2011
    Phantom? Not at all!
    Pix in color and really fantastic ones to be found in Tony Adriaensens' sensational book "Weekend Heroes".
    Car is owned since almost 40 years by same owner.
    Last seen August 1974 at Laguna Secs, painted red.

    Marcel Massini
     
  5. Boudewijn

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    #5 Boudewijn, Sep 19, 2011
    Hello Marcel,
    Small correction: the fourth Running Paramount Ranch Road Races were on June 16-17, not May 16 (Paramount Ranch Remembered by Art Evans 2006/ entry list)
    Best Boudewijn
     
  6. Ed Niles

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    #6 Ed Niles, Sep 19, 2011
    It was advertised in the sunday LA Times, but when I got there Norm Thompson was closing the deal. He got quite a few years out of it in vintage racing, including a bad crash at Laguna Seca. All this was probably in the 60's. In the days before FML, a few of us would go out on saturday morning to buy the sunday Times, to try to beat the other vultures. There used to be a half-dozen or more F-cars advertised every week. 0118A was actually purchased by a pressman at the Times, before any of us got a crack at it. (Oops, another hijack!)
     
  7. Jeff Kennedy

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    #7 Jeff Kennedy, Sep 19, 2011
    To further some of the hijack - as late as the mid '70 the Sunday Times always had decent listings for Ferraris available. Gerry didn't start FML until the end of the '70s or the very start of the 1980s.

    Jeff
     
  8. Marcel Massini

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    #8 Marcel Massini, Sep 19, 2011
    That crash happened 10 August 1974 during the 1st Annual Monterey historic automobile races at Laguna Seca. This accident is reported on page 6 of the FOC USA magazine, issue September-October 1974.

    Marcel Massini
     
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    #9 BigTex, Sep 19, 2011
    I just purchased "Remembering Paramont Ranch...." it's quite the scrapbook.

    I can look for you.
     
  10. teegeefla

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    #10 teegeefla, Sep 19, 2011
    I have been corresponding with Mr. Bellesiles over the past few days and he apparently lost all of his racing photos and memorabilia in the 1990s. He expressed a desire to see any photos, so if anyone can assist him contact me via PM.

    I also find myself again regretting not buying Adriaensens "Weekend Heroes" when I first saw it at Monterey several years ago. Now copies are priced out of my budget. Any help would be appreciated, so PM me if posssible.

    Thanks.

    Tom
     
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    #11 Sempre_gilles, Sep 20, 2011
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    In my files I also have:

    May 18, 1957 Raced at Santa Barbara preliminary race by Bellesiles, race #222, 14th
    May 19, 1957 Raced at Santa Barbara main by Bellesiles, race #222, DNF

    Correct? Since the Paramount Ranch Road Races were on June 16-17 instead of May 16 1957 there is not a conflict of dates.....
     
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    #12 tongascrew, Sep 20, 2011
    Thanks for reminding me about "Weekend Heroes". It took me a while to find it yesterday and I am looking forward to receiving it. just one man's opinion tongascrew
     
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    #13 tongascrew, Sep 20, 2011
    Hi,see post #12. E-mail me at [email protected] in a few days and I will give you my impressions. Obviously M.M. like it so I ordered it yesterday and received a quick confirmation that it was in the mail. Interesting, shipping was included. just one man's opinion tongascrew
     
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    #14 tongascrew, Sep 20, 2011
    Bellesiles acquired the car from John von Neumann after the famous Jan 19-20 1957 Pomona race when the car was driven by Phil Hill in rain and flooding conditions. At that point the car was silver with a red stripe. Bellesiles changed the strip to black. Sorry no pictures. If you check the barchetta pages for 0582, Bellesiles had additional events in 1957 with this car other than what M.M. lists. I have not verified if these are correct. just one man's opinion tongascrew
     
  15. teegeefla

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    #15 teegeefla, Oct 4, 2011
    Marcel-

    I have corresponded with someone who has the Weekend Heroes book but he did not find any photos of 0582 as raced by Jacques Bellesiles bearing the number 222. My comment about the car being a phantom was only in reference to the period of Mr.Bellesiles ownership. Could you suggest any alternatives? Thanks.
     

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