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  1. It's Ross

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    State lawmakers approve speed cameras for Chicago
    CHICAGO (CBS) — State lawmakers have approved legislation to allow the city of Chicago to use cameras to catch speeders near city schools and parks.
    A city of Chicago red light camera (CBS Chicago)
    The Illinois House voted 64-50 on Wednesday in favor of the proposal, pushed by Mayor Rahm Emanuel. The Senate had approved the measure two weeks ago, so it now goes to Gov. Pat Quinn for his consideration.
    The governor's office said he would review the legislation when it reaches his desk.
    The mayor has been pushing to use existing red light cameras and mobile cameras to catch speeders in the act within 1/8 mile of schools and parks in Chicago.
    The cameras would ticket cars going more than five miles per hour over the speed limit.
    Before enforcement with speed cameras, the city would conduct a 30-day public education campaign to inform drivers of the new speed cameras. Intersections with the cameras would also have signage informing drivers that the speed cameras are there.
    "The goal is to change people's behavior. You have education, engineering and enforcement and if you don't have the enforcement, the other two aren't as effective," CDOT Commissioner Gabe Klein said.
    Emanuel insisted the city is not trying to use the speed cams as revenue generators. He says they are part of an overall strategy to protect children.
    "It's not a one-trick pony — speed cameras, that's it. It's curfew, ministers, crossing guards, cameras inside schools and speed cameras outside schools," Emanuel said earlier this week. "If you follow the law, you've got nothing to worry about, simple. As you follow the law, this is not a problem. If you break the law, obviously you've got a concern. And all I'm saying is just don't do it near a school or park."
    The mayor has pointed to city statistics that showed pedestrian fatalities near intersections went down 70 percent after red light cameras were installed.
    The Chicago Department of Transportation's before and after study of the city's 109 red light cameras found 53 fatalities — 26 of them pedestrians — before the cameras started snapping pictures and triggering tickets, compared to 21 fatalities — six of them pedestrians — after the cameras went in.
    The mayor has called the speed cameras just one part of a strategy to increase safety near schools, in addition to deploying more crossing guards, increasing safe passage funds, enforcing a curfew and new cameras inside schools.
    Emanuel has said he doesn't care if the cameras make any money, only that they save lives.
    But a secret study obtained by "The Expired Meter" website showed that speed cameras could be a much bigger cash cow for the city than red light cameras.
    Mike Brockway's "The Expired Meter" website has the results of a trial run of seven red light cameras temporarily enabled to detect speeders in April and May and Brockway said the study shows those cameras alone would have generated more than $100 million in speeding ticket revenue.
    That study found speeders were 20, 30, even 60 times more common than red light runners, who are already contributing millions to city coffers.
    And remember, the test covered just a handful of cameras.
    Regardless, if Quinn signs off on the legislation, the number of traffic cameras in the city could skyrocket.
    Right now, the city has red light cameras in 79 locations within a 1/8 of a mile of a school or park. Those are the cameras Emanuel said he wants to modify to catch speeders and they cover about 3 percent of the city.
    But the legislation would also allow entirely new cameras close to schools and parks and a Chicago Tribune analysis of the proposed legislation to allow speed cameras in the city showed the legislation would allow at least 47 percent of the city to be covered by the cameras — not including areas around colleges and universities.
    Any motorist busted by a camera would be sent a ticket in the mail. Sponsors said the tickets would be sent to the owner of the car caught speeding. The cameras would only take photos of the speeding car's license plate, not the driver.
    The owner would be subject to a $100 fine and five unpaid fines would result in the loss of the owner's driver's license.
     
  2. amenasce

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    Bunch of thieves. Their Red light cameras are already an armed robbery. I got one at 7.24pm when it said no turn until 7pm. I contested it and they still said i had to pay.

    I hope they rot in hell.
     
  3. alum04org

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    as if I needed another reason....
    This guy - "Mayor Rahm Emanuel" - is a real piece of work.
     
  4. Noel

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    I bet cab drivers get exemptions. They are the worst drivers on the road.
     
  5. F1tommy

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    #5 F1tommy, Nov 11, 2011
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    To serve and collect. Boy is Big brother getting big. So if we get cameras to catch drivers why do we need as many cops??
     
  6. Dino V

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    I am gonna laugh when they day comes when a giant mob of people riot and tear down every red light camera/speed camera (just like in russia, if I remember right).
     
  7. Townshend

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  8. alfas

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    how did they rationalize that?

    Only way I could see is if they could prove you rolled it?

    Barring that what gives?
     
  9. Webby

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    I got a ticket tonight for parking in "residential permit" area. BULL ****. I was clearly parked between two green Parking signs. Not paying it. My car's going to be in Indiana all winter and I'll have a new one in the spring so I don't give a damn. These city cops are ****ing useless. I used to anonymously pay for cops' meals whenever I could as a thank you, but not doing that anymore. They were completely useless to me when I was in a hit & run, and now I've gotten 2 BS tickets.... **** 'em.
     
  10. Darolls

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    Chicago sucks, Cook County sucks and all of the Chicagoland area sucks. Including the entire state of Illinois.

    I'm still trying to figure out how my home value decreased by about 40%, but my property taxes went up about 50%!
     
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  12. Andrew Armitage

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    Cops really don't write parking tickets in the city. The meter maids or whatever they're called write the vast majority of them. I've gotten 2 parking tickets in the last couple weeks. A residential parking ticket where the street was almost empty because there were more vacant lots than houses and a no front plate ticket. I'm not going to lie, I was guilty on both occassions and paid my $110 worth of fines (which is completely excessive). All it does it make me avoid the city (i.e. spending money in the city).

    Red light cameras and speed cameras are nothing but revenue generators. Anyone who says different is full of it.

    The worst part is where does all this money go? Most of it is just pissed away due to coruption and misguided public policy.
     
  13. JP365

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    #13 JP365, Nov 14, 2011
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    I am no fan of Rahmulus and ream-us. I fully believe the North Shore carpet bagger wants the cameras to raise revenue; however, I am in favor of speeding cameras near schools. Over the past eleven years, I have watched in horror as three of my students (and one of my colleagues) have been hit by drivers at the corner of Laflin and Jackson. In two of the cases the drivers drove off and were never caught. In addition to the ones I have witnessed, there have been five or six other students hit near the school. The number of people blowing through the stop sign and speeding on Jackson got so bad a few years ago that the police department assigned cadets to be crossing guards. We can debate speeding on the open highway, but there is no excuse and no reason to speed on city streets. End of discussion.
     

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