finally a dry day, took out the cs

**marknkidz** · #1 01-12-2005, 08:40 PM

Finally after what seems to be a month of rain (please refrain from the customary "you can drive them in rain you know" posts) I got to take out the CS. I have wanted to get over to Premier Motorsports to have Dave put on those front skid plates. I gave him a call at 10:30 AM and he as usual was very helpful. "come on down will take care of it while you wait." Well not only did they do a beautiful job on it, he also asked me if I would like him to bypass the butterfly on the exhaust. He said it makes the car sound the way it suppose to. WELL, WELL, WELL Now thats what im talking about!!! Please understand i only have 350 miles on car so i havent been able to use the rpm range above 5k so im assuming this is just a taste of what im in for...Cant wait.
Also noticed something strange, maybe other CS owners can help with. When driving with the window down small pebbles come into the cockpit, its the weirdest thing, never happened on my 360 but today TWO pebbles in the head...Yea I know keep the window up, But The SOUND IS TO INTOXICATING...may be just a fluke.

**Doody** · #2 01-12-2005, 09:05 PM

you sure some kids on the highway weren't throwin' rocks at you?

drive mine windows-down ALL the time. never a pebble in the cockpit (unless it came in on my shoe!).

doody.

1badboy · #3 01-12-2005, 09:15 PM

Congrats on your CS, MarkNKidz- I am very jealous! But I don't want "pebbles in the face" - hope you can figure that out :0)

I just had to chime in with major props to Dave and Roger at Premier- they have been very good to me over the years (even when Dave was over on Robertson before starting Premier), fixing a TR and a 328, and presently they will fix my 355 Spider if need be.

Sorry to hijack your thread... but it was good to see they still have great customer service.

Eric

ben, lj · #4 01-12-2005, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by marknkidz

Also noticed something strange, maybe other CS owners can help with. When driving with the window down small pebbles come into the cockpit, its the weirdest thing, never happened on my 360 but today TWO pebbles in the head...Yea I know keep the window up, But The SOUND IS TO INTOXICATING...may be just a fluke.

how odd! while i have never experienced this in the CS (windows are usually up or most of the way up), i have experienced it three times in the Carrera GT in less than a month! i think it's just the aerodynamics of these cars and when you put the windows down, you interrupt that somewhat causing the rocks to enter the cabin instead of continuing down the side of the designed air flow.

tonyyoshi · #5 01-12-2005, 09:43 PM

is'nt it just the difference between the challenge wheels and tyres? are they wider with a stickier compound than the normal 360 tyres? when i put competions on my 355, i started getting stones fly up too.

ben, lj · #6 01-12-2005, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyyoshi

is'nt it just the difference between the challenge wheels and tyres? are they wider with a stickier compound than the normal 360 tyres? when i put competions on my 355, i started getting stones fly up too.

the CS uses 225s vs. 215s on the 360 and yes the CS's Corsas are much stickier.

xpresso · #7 01-13-2005, 12:41 AM

No rocks on the forehead yet....

**TUBE GUY** · #8 01-13-2005, 01:11 AM

I took delivery of my BMW M3 (slightly used and mint) and it was the day after a heavy storm. I could not resist and did a mad dog run up Mt Baldy road.

I promptly picked up all the rocks deposited on the road from fast water and they flew up AROUND the fender, damaging paint in areas that you could never figure the rocks would get to. As if the rocks could follow a curve.

After that I wait a few days after a heavy storm before I drive my f-cars. Too much junk on the road.

**bumboola** · #9 01-13-2005, 01:17 AM

I got a garage door opener in the forehead once but never a pebble in the cockpit - windows are always down.

**bobafett** · #10 01-13-2005, 01:40 AM

Doody: it's because all the rocks are in your head!

--Dan

20C4S · #11 01-13-2005, 03:18 AM

the freaking rain caused bad roads & the stickier tires make perfect sense to me

not going to drive it til the road totally dry up

**Doody** · #12 01-13-2005, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bobafett

Doody: it's because all the rocks are in your head!

--Dan

oooh! that'd be an UPGRADE!

doody.

**watt** · #13 01-13-2005, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by marknkidz

Finally after what seems to be a month of rain (please refrain from the customary "you can drive them in rain you know" posts) I got to take out the CS.
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hey Mark,

come on up to malibu!!! my mountain roads are like driving thru diarreah!!!

at least they're finally open... and i have the Ultimate Mud Machine M5 which is brown with mud up to the windows.....fun sliding thru the poop.

even mr. doo-doo wouldn't drive his CS in this doo-doo, or would you doo-doo?????

**bobafett** · #14 01-13-2005, 12:00 PM

Doods: bigger rocks are better rocks.

Wattster: clearly you need to spend more time with the Dudester. Just as he likes his DP'96 at 53 deg F, he likes his ferrari days at 75 degF, 22-30% humidity, direct sunlight, between the hours of 10am and 2.12pm.

Eccentric? Hardly...

--Dan

720 · #15 01-13-2005, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by marknkidz

Also noticed something strange, maybe other CS owners can help with. When driving with the window down small pebbles come into the cockpit, its the weirdest thing, never happened on my 360 but today TWO pebbles in the head...Yea I know keep the window up, But The SOUND IS TO INTOXICATING...may be just a fluke.

i've had small pebbles come into the cockpit a few times. just a fluke, but it has happened to me more than once

i don't mind because the sound of the engine sounds so much better with the windows down!

F5506M · #16 01-13-2005, 12:33 PM

you guys are lucky at least after the rain stops you can drive you cars, here in the north-east we have roads covered with salt. It seems like we get an inch of snow and the municipalities dumps two inches of salt on the roads.

ChalStrad · #17 01-13-2005, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by marknkidz

Finally after what seems to be a month of rain (please refrain from the customary "you can drive them in rain you know" posts) I got to take out the CS. I have wanted to get over to Premier Motorsports to have Dave put on those front skid plates. I gave him a call at 10:30 AM and he as usual was very helpful. "come on down will take care of it while you wait." Well not only did they do a beautiful job on it, he also asked me if I would like him to bypass the butterfly on the exhaust. He said it makes the car sound the way it suppose to. WELL, WELL, WELL Now thats what im talking about!!! Please understand i only have 350 miles on car so i havent been able to use the rpm range above 5k so im assuming this is just a taste of what im in for...Cant wait.
Also noticed something strange, maybe other CS owners can help with. When driving with the window down small pebbles come into the cockpit, its the weirdest thing, never happened on my 360 but today TWO pebbles in the head...Yea I know keep the window up, But The SOUND IS TO INTOXICATING...may be just a fluke.

Word of advice: In bypassing the exhaust clapets I suppose all you are doing is unplugging the rubber hoses connected to them? If so that is fine BUT you should only do it once your engine (or rather cats) are hot. Otherwise you run the risk of damaging a cat as they will not heat up properly.

350 miles and all you have used is 5k???? Why???? I assure you that your car was driven harder than you will probably ever drive it before you ever got it. The tolerances in a modern and futhermore blueprinted engine are such that a traditional breaking in period of x000 miles is no longer necessary - it is almost to the contrary as it can make the engine "lazy" . What is important is to have scrubbed in your tyres, bedded in your brakes and have all the temps nice and warm before going for it. I took mine to the track at 800 kms. I've done 13000 now - never a day's trouble and a real flyer.

I get stung on the cheek - at high speed!!!!!!!!

**Doody** · #18 01-13-2005, 03:51 PM

wattster & boba - you guys really need to get jobs or something

my baby is tucked away for winter. very sad walking past her every day under her cover to clear the snow off my jeep.

nearly broke 60 today though, so that's something! too bad for the slush and salt all over kingdom come. never mind that my jeep has to work hard to get up my driveway - never mind pzero corsas!

doody.

ChalStrad · #19 01-13-2005, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Doody

wattster & boba - you guys really need to get jobs or something

my baby is tucked away for winter. very sad walking past her every day under her cover to clear the snow off my jeep.

nearly broke 60 today though, so that's something! too bad for the slush and salt all over kingdom come. never mind that my jeep has to work hard to get up my driveway - never mind pzero corsas!

doody.

What's the matter with you? Don't you drive your Ferrari in the snow? Seriously, why not? Great fun and you don't need to worry how worn your P Zeros are as it is all in the opposite lock!!!! Plus if you show up to work (if you have a job) or elsewhere in a Ferrari inthe snow you will get EVERYBODY'S attention

720 · #20 01-13-2005, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by marknkidz

Finally after what seems to be a month of rain (please refrain from the customary "you can drive them in rain you know" posts) I got to take out the CS. I have wanted to get over to Premier Motorsports to have Dave put on those front skid plates. I gave him a call at 10:30 AM and he as usual was very helpful. "come on down will take care of it while you wait." Well not only did they do a beautiful job on it, he also asked me if I would like him to bypass the butterfly on the exhaust. He said it makes the car sound the way it suppose to. WELL, WELL, WELL Now thats what im talking about!!!

it's easy to bypass the exhaust valves. i tried it on one of my stradales and i hate to say it but it sounds AWFUL. the stock exhaust is a bit thin at idle an d low revs, but when you romp on it and it sounds fantastic! especially in a tunnel

i figured that if i bypassed the exhaust valve that it would also sound better when idling and low revs. wrong. it sounds like an old boat at idle and low revs. i immediately reconnected the bypass valve. i hope to never hear that awful boat-like sound again! i've known david freed for many years and he does a great job repairing and painting ferraris. but he's wrong on this one. the stradale sounds like crap when you bypass the exhaust valve. i love the sound of the stock exhaust when driving hard. if you want more volume that sounds good at idle and low revs then go with either the tubi NGT (about $5K) or one of the capristo exhausts (about $4K i think). between those two choices i prefer the tubi NGT. my advise is not to change the exhaust at this time. live with it and i think you will find that once you break in the car and get to hear the stock exhaust under a lod that you will love it. in the first couple months i owned my stradales i was leaning towards replacing the exhaust. but after a few thousand miles i decided that i'm very happy with the stock exhaust.