1/18 Ferrari 512 BB LM

[ferrariscale18]

Here´s my Ferrari 512 BB LM. My brother took a Chrono Ferrari 512 BB and modified it. I think he´s done a great job.

[WILLIAM H]

nice, good work

[Dino 208gt4]

VERY NICE!!!!!

[GTE]

Yup, great job!

[Iceman.1]

Very nice! Any idea what he did for the graphics or a source for them?

Bill

[Mule]

Wow, that is awesome!

[kevfla]

But once you've seen 512 BBLMs in the flesh, you'll notice how elongated the nose and tail sections are on the real thing. The existing 365 & 512 1/18 models don't capture "the look." Nice try though! Your model might be a good copy of something that would have run in a rally, Tour de France maybe.

KevFla

[Old Guy]

Kevin,

No, the model he's pictured is from 1978 -- four of these were built by the factory for LeMans. Two went to Pozzi, one to Swaters, and one to Chinetti (that's the one Medlin owned/owns). The "real" BB/LMs you're thinking of were built in 1979 and 1980. The '79 cars (such as # 00 at Cavallino) can most easily be told by the rounded lower side panels; the later 1980 versions are squared off.

Sorry I couldn't talk more when I saw you -- my weekend to work.

O.G.

[model builder]

Originally Posted by kevfla

But once you've seen 512 BBLMs in the flesh, you'll notice how elongated the nose and tail sections are on the real thing. The existing 365 & 512 1/18 models don't capture "the look." Nice try though! Your model might be a good copy of something that would have run in a rally, Tour de France maybe.

KevFla

The car body is correct for the #88 car that Andruet and Dini ran at LM in 1978. However the #89 THOMSON car and and #87 NART car from LM78 had the long "GTO type" nose on it. The #85 Car that Beurlys drove was a little strange looking. I don't think Swaters got one.

The model is really nice. Its missing the 2 little rally lights on the nose and the front/side NACA ducts need to be moved closer to the nose but otherwised its excellent.

Nice build

Ed

[vince308]

ecurie francorchamps 1978

[ferrariscale18]

Two things: I made the decals and took them from http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/, and I´ve told my brother about the two front lights. He´ll surely put them in a few days.

[vince308]

great model, love it.

[kevfla]

Originally Posted by Old Guy

Kevin,

No, the model he's pictured is from 1978 -- four of these were built by the factory for LeMans. Two went to Pozzi, one to Swaters, and one to Chinetti (that's the one Medlin owned/owns). The "real" BB/LMs you're thinking of were built in 1979 and 1980. The '79 cars (such as # 00 at Cavallino) can most easily be told by the rounded lower side panels; the later 1980 versions are squared off.

Sorry I couldn't talk more when I saw you -- my weekend to work.

O.G.

Here's a link to a shot of Ed Davies 512BB/LM, which he has since sold and is now in Europe:http: //www.ferrarihistory.homestead.com/davies.html

Go to GT cars and click on the BBLM for a rear 3/4 view. I guess the bone of contention was that the model pictured at the start of this thread was labeled as a 512BB/LM. I wish a model company would produce one in 1/18 scale. The model shown works better as an example of a 365 racer, not as a 512. Isn't Walter Medlin's car a 365 GT4/BBLM?

Anyone attending the Shell Historics on Friday were treated to a SERIOUS dice between Ed Davies' 512M and Todd Morici's 512BB/LM!! Running third for most of the event was Carlos Monterverdi's 206. I'm puzzled as to how a V-6 can stay that close to the frontrunners. Did he blow-up the engine during the race? See you at Daytona O.G.

KevFla

[Old Guy]

Kevin,

Fortunately Monteverde's problem was only a broken throttle cable. Morici was very impressed with the times Monteverde was turning in the 206 SP, faster than almost all the 512 BB/LMs. Carlos is a good driver, he's comfortable in that car, the car is well set up, and he's shifting at just over 10,000 RPM! He and I discussed that specific point, as I had used 8000 as a redline on mine. I saw the tach markings and tell-tale, and his does indeed go to ten. (Eleven, maybe, for Spinal Tap fans.)

Quite an impressive performance, and its a shame he dropped out. He did win the Drum Brake race in his 250 TR (over Leslie Davies' TR and Jon Shirley's TR) after Giddings' 250 F developed driveline problems while leading.

And back to the original subject: I don't know what the absolutely correct designation is for the four 1978 cars. I've always used "512 BB/LM" only for the later 1979/1980 versions.

O.G.

[piloti]

Originally Posted by Old Guy

And back to the original subject: I don't know what the absolutely correct designation is for the four 1978 cars. I've always used "512 BB/LM" only for the later 1979/1980 versions.

O.G.

There were 3 factory cars in 1978 (24127,24129,24131). I believe the factory designation is '512BB Competizione'.
Nathan

[model builder]

Originally Posted by kevfla

Here's a link to a shot of Ed Davies 512BB/LM, which he has since sold and is now in Europe:http: //www.ferrarihistory.homestead.com/davies.html

Go to GT cars and click on the BBLM for a rear 3/4 view. I guess the bone of contention was that the model pictured at the start of this thread was labeled as a 512BB/LM. I wish a model company would produce one in 1/18 scale. The model shown works better as an example of a 365 racer, not as a 512. Isn't Walter Medlin's car a 365 GT4/BBLM?

Anyone attending the Shell Historics on Friday were treated to a SERIOUS dice between Ed Davies' 512M and Todd Morici's 512BB/LM!! Running third for most of the event was Carlos Monterverdi's 206. I'm puzzled as to how a V-6 can stay that close to the frontrunners. Did he blow-up the engine during the race? See you at Daytona O.G.

KevFla

The car IS a 512BB NOT a 365. The car was raced at LeMans in 1978 as a 512BB. It is referred to as a 512BB in the book by Dominique Pascal "Ferrari at LeMans" There is no confusion to those who know this car. The 365's that raced at LM looked completely different. The only 365 GT/4BB that looked similar to the car in question was one that was entered by NART during LM75. However the car was scratched along with all the NART cars because Chinetti was upset his Dino didn't qualify. It never raced.

The 365's that ran during 77LM and 78LM were completely different than the 512's and different from themselves.

Althought this type 512BB body looks like the street 365BB's there are some significant differences.

Also some refer to them as 512BB or 512BB/LM's. In many books they are referred to as either or. As well as the later 512BB that ran at LeMans during the '79 thru '82. Also they are referred to as both 512BB's and 512BB/LM's. Basically any 512BB that ran at LM was considered a 512BB/LM. The only exception could be the crazy super ugly Bellancauto. I think they referred to them as a 512 BBB GTX. Also some other 512's had the IMSA-GTX label during '81 and '82.

See? Not too confusing....................were was I? Oh yeah.

Also the bubble car for 84. Another Bellancauto work of art.

Ed

[model builder]

Originally Posted by piloti

There were 3 factory cars in 1978 (24127,24129,24131). I believe the factory designation is '512BB Competizione'.
Nathan

Was the Beurlys car (chassis 22715) not a factory car?

Ed

[piloti]

Originally Posted by model builder

Was the Beurlys car (chassis 22715) not a factory car?

Ed

No. According to the book ' Ecurie Garage Francorchamps' it was built in Belgium from parts supplied by Ferrari. I have a letter from Ferrari listing all the factory built racing BBs and 22715 is not one of them.
Nathan

[vince308]

Originally Posted by piloti

No. According to the book ' Ecurie Garage Francorchamps' it was built in Belgium from parts supplied by Ferrari. I have a letter from Ferrari listing all the factory built racing BBs and 22715 is not one of them.
Nathan

The back spoiler is an old Formula 1 back wing.......

[ferrariscale18]

It´s quite similar to the real one.