I know that the guys from auto motor und sport reached with Enzo in Nardo 355 km/h , and one Enzo in GumBall reached 366km/h. But I`ve found an interview with Enzo`s designer , Ken Okuyama , and he said that : "the car was targeted for 400km/h-that`s 250mph-and the car could do that , but politically , Ferrari decided not to go for maximum speed ..."
I have also heard rumors about that too from Ferrari people in France. And theres another Enzo who did more than 360 Kmh, in France as well. The Enzo top speed is certainly much higher than 355 kmh , but i think Ferrari did a good thing not to market about that ..Tree huggers would be all over the place..
I don't know if there is a speed limiter, or if the rpm/gearing/bhp allows it... but you could just disable the active aero devices, hang on and hope it doesn't flip over........ The ENZO aero is powerful, and removing it would add a lot to top speed... but be VERY dangerous....... Who's first.....?
I really doubt the Enzo could make 400 kmh.... There's nothing bad with it, but saying a car is made for 400 kmh is completly pointless (especially if it's the designer saying so, he's no aerodynamician, nor is he a cooling engineer, tire engineer etc). Also, the Enzo would need a load of added HP to break such a barrier, even if the aero balance was tuned for max speed (which is already the case anyway, as the downforce lowers a lot to achieve better speed). Don't forget that at such speed, 90 % of the HP is here to break the wind, no more the weight of the car or the internal friction Lastly don't forget that by euro-law, a tach' can't display a speed slower than what you drive (for obvious reasons). But there is a tolerance (required by winds, tire diameter etc) of 7 % or 10 % excess. Now how much is that when the speedo shows 370 kmh ? Almost 40 kmh, so the driver was probably doing ~340-345 Kms, which is cool enough.
gougoul. The aero does not lower for speed..... It maximises for stability.... I've got the bumf somewhere.
Gougol , when that smart man called Ken Okuyama said that Enzo it`s designed for 400km/h , he was right. Allow me to explain : Okuyama knows everything about aerodinamics because he built the car USING THE WIND TUNNEL , and in cooperation with the enginners from Ferrari. Do you think a supercar it`s built using another method ? The designer draws the exterior , the engineer puts the engine and the specialist in aerodinamics adds the Venturi tunnel ? NOOOOO ! By the way Enzo`s aerodinamics it`s tuned for maximum downforce , and the speedo on Enzo displays THE REAL SPEED ! If you want i`ll give the address where you could find that interview with that 'liar called Okuyama'
Come on guys, relax. First : 1. No speedo can be accurate, unless it's GPS, or using a laser. I haven't heard the Enzo has any of them, so it's not accurate, it can't be, and the faster you drive, the bigger the error, do the math, or just think. 2. The aero balance reduces at speed to achieve a higher top speed. Keeping the same mid-perf aero balance would limit the enzo to 330 kmh or so. If you haven't read that, get some magazines. 3. I know pretty well how cars a built, as i worked in R&D departments for Daimler benz (i also visited their aero tunnel while they were testing a F40 at the time ?). Still, saying the car is designed to drive to 400 kmh is meaningless.Maybe he wanted to say the car will be stable at 400 ? But then again, if it's stable at 300 and you don't change the laminar flows etc., it'll be stable at 400 and at 450, maybe after that you'll start venturing in new troubles with too much air accumulating in front of the car, etc etc., or maybe that they would still manage the flows or air through the radiators etc in a decent way. But in the end the glorious engine simply can't achieve that speed unless it's used to propel a water drop. You would need another 100 hp just to get 10 kmh more out of the car, so forget getting 50 kmh more. 4. Remember the McLaren F1, ca. the same bhp/torque as the Enzo, but much lighter. Despite a very bad (well, that's relative) aero balance,it couldn't do better than 370, and that car was probably prepared. YOu could see that the LM, while being more powerfull (and lighter...) , was 25-30 kmh slower just because of some better aero balance. 5. Lastly, if you ever drove really fast (american style, in a straight line) in a car, you'll know how pointless it is to discuss the 400 kmh stuff. The Enzo is a great car without touching 400 kmh, and without having to touch that speed. If you look at the CGT, it's +/- as fast (or slow ?) as a Miurcelago or a 575, yet it would draw rounds any of them on a track. But maybe i just touched at somebody's icon...
With the Bugatti Veyron they couldn't reach the desired 406 km/h with 1001 hp, so they had to add another 100 hp and, to be able to reach that speed, many of the aerodynamics have to be turned of (or put down, how do you say) sacrificing stability.
Oh apologies, of course, the computer is connected in real time to a network of satelites tracking the car.... Come on, what difference does it make ?
The LM was tuned for circuit racing , so it has more downforce , because more downforce allows better traction , better traction a higher speed through the corners , so it`s a matter of tradeoff the old issue of drag vs downforce. The normal McL F1 has approx. 0 kg downforce , so the drag is less , high speed but no stability ,just ask Thomas Bscher ! Bugatti had problems with stability and cooling , the power & torque was more than enough to reach that speed , only the shape of the car put some problems. You can`t compare a car with central mounted engine that it`s also light (Carrera gt) with a heavy car with a front mounted engine like a 575. Do your research before , & I don`t want to be rude , but you seem the type that compares the McLaren SLR with Zonda Fangio
You didn`t touch somebody`s icon ..... you`ve touched the worlds greatest supercar , a F1 car for the road that would make ALL other cars in this category look outdated by a few generations.
Pula ! Come on, do the math, drive these cars first etc. The McLaren tries to generate downforce, otherwise it would fly, but it's known to generate much less downforce than an Enzo or so at speed. On a side note, the LM is a roadgoing version of the race car. So it was not made for tracks (at least not more than a MC12).... Also, concerning the speed, what you say still makes no sense at all, you must integrate stability and cooling to get the top speed of a car (as well as drag), otherwise, it would be too easy (a MB car still holds the record for the fastest speed on an open road, 438 kmh, and the record is pre WWII, but the engine was cooled with ice, and rosenmeyer died during such an attempt in an Auto Union, and of course the engine would have lasted maybe 5 miles more etc etc) Racing versions of mid-front engined cars (Corvette, 550 etc) compete quite well with rear engined cars (i talk about real cars here, no F1 crap), and anyway i was comparing them because top speed was ca. the same and that was not related to engine position. Anyway, i guess i'm wasting my time with a teen that knows it all better and loves the Enzo, so it's pointless. Lastly, i hate the SLR as it's ugly and it's not purposeful, and i hate the Zonda, even if i admire the intention, because it looks as if it has been drawn by an 18yrs old boy.
Hi Guys, I can confirm that we reached 362 in France in April 2004, 366 in Morroco in May 2004, and 370 in Italy in October 2004. (we have 373 also, but not valid because the car took slghtly off and therefore the 373 is not genuine) lol To reach 400kph, I think I would need a longer 6th gear and a few addditional HP to help you get there fast. Otherwise, it would take you extra long straight lines to reach that speed. In Morroco, attempting the top speed we entered a corner at 320kph, and as a copilot, it was not my best moment in life!! The aero are from another planet!! 366kph was w/ the left window open and no air was getting into the car! Regards Kalbas
Ken Okuyama and the wind tunnel made an awesome job ! Regarding awesome aerodinamics , Ferrari represent the benchmark ! Well , aerodinamics , engine , drive-train , chasiss , gearbox , brakes , Ferrari set the standars. The car was supremely stabile at those speeds , isn`it ?
Indeed. It was very stable even though we almost took off a couple of times. However, after seeing the speeds we managed, last time the car was at the factory, they decided to lewer it 1cm, to increase stability they said. Best. Kalbas
Nice pic! Amazing the good qualityyou have even with the moves inside the car. We took some but they are always blurry (sp). Lucky for us the board computer keeps track of the fastest speed for a while. Kalbas
Kalbas, but were those figures generated by apparatus from the car or any exterior means, as the aforementioned GPS/laser?
It took several attempts, and just the right stretch of smooth road, to capture that image! Oh yeah, and a gutsy driver.
No it was what the digial was reading. We don't even bother with the speedometer (needle) since it's way off. At 366 on the digital it was almost on 380kph!! We had set measures to see how much the digital is off, and with the freeway kilo markers, we are only 1 or 2 kph off. And since the Enzo tires are always new (my friend change them every 1500-2000 km) we can say we are not far from reality. Best
