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Tailpipe "Chirp" Inserts-my DIY

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  1. gatsby

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    #1 gatsby, Jul 25, 2005
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    I took the great suggestions from the forum of getting rid of the "chirping" sounds coming from the exhaust. Here's my experience:

    1)Started with (4) 26ga Stainless Steel sheet cut 7" X 3-1/2" rectangle.
    2)Rolled these into a tube on a 1" socket.
    3)Trimmed the tubes after rolling to exact fit. The inside exhaust-with-holes in my 328 is exactly 5" in circumference, thus the inserts are actually 5" X 3-1/2" rectangle SS sheets rolled into a tube.

    4)Tapped the inserts gently with a leather mallet into the exhaust
    5)Finished product in pic below.
    6)Now I will take her for a drive to see if I killed the bird.

    cheers,

    The anti-audobon
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  2. thecarreaper

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    you have my complete attention, the damn Dino sounds like a VW bug to me........ i could care less if it sells this weekend i would LOVE to get rid of that chirp!!!!! :)




    please update us !!!!!
     
  3. Mike C

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    There's no question that those things work! I had to use them when I still had the stock exhaust on my 308QV after the batting around one of the tailpipe inserts had apparently degraded.
     
  4. gatsby

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    Yes, after all of $10.23 and about 30 minutes of meditative work in the garage, the rig seems okay, at least for me. Just in case, I did not insert the tubes "flush" to the original exhaust pipe end. I left a 1/8" lip so that I can pull the inserts out with pliers if they, for some reason, act weird on me. The spring action of the tube is also very tight so I don't think they will blow off at all.
     
  5. F1Ace

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    Thanks for posting this!!!

    I have been waiting for weeks for "Partsvag" to respond to my question about his advertised in the FerrariAds section. Now I am gonna just do it myself.

    Thanks!
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  6. f355spider

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    As one who went through this several years ago, I can only remind you all to use stainless steel. Through trial and error, I used galvanized sheet metal and aluminum sheet metal, and both curled tighter under the heat and came out. SS worked great. The easiest way to insert them is using a broom handle to tap them in, btw. Best of luck to you all!

    Dave
     
  7. PSk

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    Surely you need to tack weld them in ... think of the law suit if they dropped out and caused a flat tyre and a school bus crashed or something.

    Very clever and all, but a little tiny tack would be safer.
    Pete
     
  8. gatsby

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    Just came back from a hard 1-hour drive. No more chirping!..AT all speeds.

    Inserts did not move a mm. Don't see how they can blow out at all even without tack with all that surface area pushing against the inner wall (5" X 3-1/2" total surface area). -Will think about tacking if I see some movement. thanks for the suggestion as i will definitely monitor the insert for any movement.
     
  9. Air_Cooled_Nut

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    Sure, if he stamped on them "If found please return to ..."

    I've seen worse on the roads and if those were to get out they'd more likely roll to the side of the road. Now, the baffle inside a VW stinger muffler, yeah, I tack weld mine in now that I've launched a few :eek:
     
  10. f355spider

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    On my 308 there was enough grip from the tension of the ss to hold the inserts very tightly....come on...worry about blowing a tire out? Hardly....it will just get flattened by the tire.
     
  11. PSk

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    Okay :)

    Pete
     
  12. rivee

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    Now, go to your room, Pete, and stay there.:)
     
  13. Birdman

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    I put a set in the Mondial and it cured the godawful bird chirp too.

    Birdman
     
  14. gatsby

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    For weeks I thought it was a belt squealing until I read the posts here. I think it was the "banchee" post or something from Verell. Thanks guys.
    My belts were not the problem, even though the "sound" sometimes sure sounded like it was.
     
  15. f355spider

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    Come to think of it, when I installed mine, I actually pushed them in deep enough that the forward edge of the insert was just behind the "lip" or weld where the perforated metal attached to the end of the tail pipe. This helped it retain with more than just the "grip" of the spring tension of the ss sheet.
     
  16. PSk

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    Can I come out yet? ... ;)

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  17. gatsby

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    OK, OK, I'll pound the suckers in. Maybe even tack it. How many kids are usually in a school bus anyway?
     
  18. PSk

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    Oops, I think you misunderstood my humor ... was not referring to the exhaust/tail pipes at all.

    I was just having a laugh with Rivee ... regarding being sent to my room. It's okay, don't mind being sent to my room ... my wife's in there too ;) ;)

    Pete
     
  19. GrigioGuy

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    What chirp?

    What does it sound like? There's quite a few 3x8 in our local group and I don't recall anything like that
     
  20. gatsby

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    In my car it really sounded something like an exhaust "whistle" from a mid-60s VW bug. The sound is almost like a very high pitched squealing belt sometimes, and I could only hear it when I am increasing (gradual) acceleration from say 3rd gear at 2500RPM to 4th gear and so on. It is not there constantly over the driving range, only during a the gradual RPM climb when I am not trying to drive the car hard. I hear the noise after the engine is fairly warm (i.e. around 10 minutes into the drive).
     
  21. gatsby

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    LOL here too. I spent a nice year down under with some mates when I was a teenager. The first thing they taught me to ask people in a bar was: "how's your d*ck for warts you p**fta pomie b$stard?" I was told that it was a good way to make friends. Little did I know.
     
  22. PSk

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    LOL :D ... that would have been interesting!!

    Pete
     
  23. Mike328

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    Fantastic post, thanks for following up on this. I'm going to do this ASAP.

    Where did you get the materials--would a home depot have it?
     
  24. rivee

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    As long as you bloody behave yerself now.
     
  25. redhead

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    Sorry Wes,

    I thought I had replied.

    I have lost my other parts assistant and since then have not been able to keep up with the extra sites, such as FerrariAds and Ebay auctions.

    My apologies, and to the best of our knowledge, they do work in 328's, but we do not have any in the shop to confirm or deny this with.
     

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