O/T DB4 GT Zagato

Sorry but this is "Ferrari" Move it to "Off topic in" in "Cars, Motorcycles, Boats, & Planes"

 

Why are you so interested in the Sanction II cars? ... they are nothing but replicas!

Just because a company approves the build (if indeed this did happen) does not mean they are genuine ... ie. they are still building new 1960's designs, thus a replica, with absolutely NO history (and it is the history that makes these cars!).
Pete

 

Maybe I'm mistaken, but the Sanction II cars were commisioned by Aston. From what I've seen at auction, the Sanction II cars bring just as much as the first run cars.

The most knowledgable guy I know on Astons is Tom Pappadopolous at Autosport Designs in NY. He sells more old Astons than anybody in the country, and I know he's handled some DB4GT Zagatos.

www.autosportdesigns.com

 

So what ... still a replica. I also cannot understand why any fool would pay as much for a Santion II car as an original. The originals have race history and famous backsides have sat in them. The Santion II cars have and always will have nothing, but replica status.

Aston should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this sham IMO.

Pete
ps: Put it this way. If Ferrari suddenly decided to build more 250 GTO's, what would you think?

It would be Ferrari lazily falling back on a previous great car and making some $'s ... but building replicas.

You cannot build a 60's car in the 2000's and call it anything but a replica.

In the end take Pipers P4 Ferraris ... exact down to the last detail ... but made AFTER the original batch and THUS always a replica. Just like a new 250 GTO AND the new DB4 GT Zagatos.

 

Sanction II cars fetch no where near the money a 60's DB4GTZ would fetch, perhaps a 1/4 of the price. The Sanction II cars are built on original chassis designated for DB4GTZ production back in the 60's. To lump them in the same class as a dodgy 4 cylinder GRP cobra replica is a bit harsh, they may be after the fact, but they are DB4GTZ'S, just built in the 90's not the 60's.
Cheers
Simon

 

Did a little homework.

http://www.astonmartins.com/db4_5_6_s/db4gt_zagato_sanction_2.htm

 

Pete, does Paul know you feel this way???
ROFLMAO.
I think Wayne Ausbrooks is pretty knowledgeable about Zagatos here, he is a moderator too.

 

Yep Paul and I chat via emails still ... and atleast his replica does not try to make out it is something else but a homage to one of the P4's (sorry Paul can't remember the chassis # ... 0856?).

And Simon ... 1/4 of the price, thanks for that information. That makes perfect sense.

... exactly but they were NOT made in to DB4GTZ's back then were they. Thus (high class) replicas.

When a production run is over and model run finished, replaced, superseded and the company has moved on ... building them again is replicating the original as it is a backwards or heritege move by the company to bask in it's past. Hardly something that would get most behind a company, ie. I make **** cars now so I the only way I can make money is making the old stuff ... when I used to be something. Again Aston should be ashamed of themselves. What they should have done is make a modern car for club racing ... a bit like they are now with the DB9 (have I got the right model?).

Pete

 

Seb,

My appologies ... I still cannot believe Aston did this, but this is not the place.

Good luck with your search, and I for one would love a driving report
Pete

 

seb,
sanction 2 & 3 cars are treated as CONTINUATIONS of the originals by aston enthusiasts.mind you.these cars were built during the victor gauntlett era
by aston specialists RS Williams and retired Zagato employees during the 90s.
so if u can find one,ur indeed a lucky man.if not,there are always two more
eccentric/wonderful zagato astons:- the brutal v8 vantage zagato and the
"couldnt be anything else" db7 zagato.both are superb to drive.
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Seb, the project sounds very interesting. I'm a big fan of Zagatos of all marques and would love to see the DB4GTZ "coming along" so to speak.

Post pictures if you can.

As for the comment on the V8Zagato shame on you, it's one of my all time favourite cars.

Cheers
Simon

 

seb,
it's great that ur trying to recreate an absolute classic in the db4gtz.
who cares what ppl say,i salute ur persistance and incredible taste!
i shall try my best to forward u info regarding the aston db4gtz.

a good place for help is www.rswilliams.co.uk
they were the ones entrusted with building the sanction 2 & 3 cars.
they can also supply u with paint codes,trim pieces and even seats and dashboards.windows,struts,chassis bits also shouldnt be too much of a problem.

another place u can check is www.oselli.com
they are more virage specialists,but they can supply u with a "driveability" package that will transform start/stop traffic from a nightmare into a pleasure.

alternatively u might want to check out www.lynxmotors.co.uk
thay supply a gorgeous e-type sports replica,and have endowed it with
superlative steering,handling,breaks and many modern concessions.they also
can prepare an awesome virage with outputs of up to 750bhp!

once again,good luck seb.i look forward to u owning a duplicate of one of the
finest cars ever made.i wish u all the best and would love to be kept on
close call as well as receive posts and pics on ur awesome project.

 

All Sanction 2 cars in one pic.
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VGF1 from the sanction 2 pic is there on 0198R. It was on 0198R for a limited period of time and is now on 0190L, which previously had plates AUJ6551, MA4160 (Sweden) and 043000 (France). Also 0198R has as a hommage a bonnet scoop like 0181L. VGF1 for a limited period was also on 0181L. Also 0190L has a different bonnet.

 

0181L
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0198R sanction 2
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You are right Seb. Someone who wants to know everything on these Zagato's should have bought this book:
http://www.palawan.co.uk/AstonMartinZagato.htm
It's now sold out at the publisher but you can still have it at Mill House books:
http://www.millhousebooks.com/prodtype.asp?PT_ID=32&strPageHistory=cat
It is a wonderful book.
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