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  1. Luuk 348

    Luuk 348 Karting

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    #1 Luuk 348, Sep 8, 2005
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    Hello,

    I have a broken a/c line that needs to be replaced I think I only need to remove the fuel tank.
    Any suggestion what to do first…. ??


    All input will be much appreciated,

    Luuk
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  2. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Ooooh.

    Yeah you are going to have to remove the fuel tank. You will also need to remove the tunnel cover on the bottom of the car, the rock cover under the gas tank, and disconnect the shift cables.

    The a/c line runs from the back of the car to the front.

    You should be able to do the job in a day.
     
  3. Luuk 348

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    #3 Luuk 348, Sep 9, 2005
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  4. Luuk 348

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    Mistake the pos .31 is on the other side .....
     
  5. ernie

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    I see you figured that out.
     
  6. Luuk 348

    Luuk 348 Karting

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    I was just informed about the price of a new pipe...
    ...€510,- that make's 650 $

    I’m being ripped of here...I think it can’t be made by a local a/c specialist.

    With Ferrari nearly broke I know Marranello needs the money… but with the winter coming up I have some time to try to fix it by my self.
     
  7. TomDial

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    I’m 100% sure something that replaces it can be made by ANY A/C repair shop on the planet.

    As long as you DONT tell them it is for a Ferrari!

    I usually murmur something like "it’s from a kit car"...

    In most cases the price for the replacement part is 10-20% of the Ferrari price...
     
  8. ernie

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    Yeah I'll say your being ripped of. I would just take it out and then have one made.
     
  9. BT

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    Is there any way to repair the section that is broken and add some fittings? Could this be done by a regular A/C specialist? I have a similar problem (pipe has a small crack / leak) and was told the pipe that runs front to back through the car tunnel had to have the engine removed to replace it. So I am waiting until the next engine out service to do it (and adding a little freon every couple months until then).
    BT
     
  10. Verell

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    If you cut the broken ends back past the point where the tube is deformed, the break can be repaired by slipping a section of Al tube that just fits over the break, & then soldering it on using A/C rated Al solder & flux.

    If there's a hose crimped to the tube, you may have to protect it by wrapping with wet rags or immersing in water.

    Here's a Al solder source:
    http://www.jwharris.com/jwprod/solderalloys/
     
  11. Luuk 348

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    I went to a local a/c specialist ..he told me that it wasn't a problem to repair the pipe.
    I will post some pictures when the pipe returns. Did not remove the a/c line yet…the tank has still 50% fuel….



    Thanks for the input
     
  12. Luuk 348

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  13. PassionIsFerrari

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    btw, how does something like that happen?
     
  14. Luuk 348

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    I don’t know I bought it broken. If have it for 4 years now and never had the pleasure of a working ac. I think it happened with the belt change..
     
  15. ernie

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    I'm guessing who ever dropped the engine out forgot to disconnect the a/c lines before they did it. That's the only way I can see something like happening.
     
  16. ernie

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    Glad to hear you got it fixed, and thanks for the update.
     
  17. No Doubt

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  18. Luuk 348

    Luuk 348 Karting

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    Its an honour to tribute......
     
  19. fatbillybob

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    $250 is more of a rip than 650 from Ferrari. That set of fitting connections is under high pressure and may leak if it is not done properly. lets give it the summer and see what happens.
     
  20. Luuk 348

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    On the invoice I see that he used liquid leak detection and a UV light to check the new pipe.
    He also advised me to let the system checked out next year.
     
  21. No Doubt

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    Luuk, did your repair hold up?
     
  22. No Doubt

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    Luuk, did your repair hold up?
     
  23. BT

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    I had my cracked A/C line fixed at Auto Italia a few months ago. They removed the gas tank and A/C line, then had the pipe repaired locally by a welder. The A/C has been working great ever since. I saw the pipe before they put it back in the car and the weld looked like a part that would come from a factory. I woulld recommend this repair.
    :)
    BT
     
  24. No Doubt

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    Aye! Well done.

    But Luuk's repair was done without removing the gas tank. It would be good to know if that repair has held, as that might decrease the downtime of anyone else with said problem (might cost a bit less, too).
     
  25. Luuk 348

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    Sorry guys for not responding earlier but I didn’t see you asking if it was still working. I had my ac system being check and its still in perfect condition…so let the summer begin.
     

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