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  1. nberry

    nberry Formula Junior

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    is insisting that on all new 430 purchases, the buyer needs to buy the extended warranty $5900. Anyone know anything about this?
     
  2. F2003-GA

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    Who's telling you this
     
  3. Scuderia-San-Antonio

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    Yep..it's right there in black and white (really black on yellow but..) on the sticker.
     
  4. F2003-GA

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    Maybe the dealer is ordering that option.I doubt FNA are putting it on all MSRP sticker's. You might want to ask some F430 owners to see if they paid for it.
     
  5. CornellCars

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    Curious to see how that pans out...seems strange not to just increase the MSRP by that amount and include a year of extra warranty, no?
     
  6. SrfCity

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    You'd think that there'd be legal implications over forcing you to purchase something that everyone else offers you the option to buy.
     
  7. hardtop

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    I heard this from a couple of spider buyers in early July, so I asked my dealer about this when my coupe was being built in July. They said it applied to US spiders only and navigation is also now "standard" at a discounted price. Dealers have no choice and are not pleased about it since they have to listen to griping customers. They should have wrapped it in the base price and probably no one would care. I have heard that legal action is being contemplated, but I do not know what legal basis a suit could be brought.

    Dave
     
  8. mw575

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    Hardtop is correct.
    Only for 430 spyder buyers which dictates that the buyer must buy a policy for the 4th year.
     
  9. nberry

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    This is puzzling. Why only on the Spider and not the coupe?

    I wonder what FNA rationale is forcing buyers to take these options? The last thing I need is a navigation system especially in a convertible. Why should I buy a warranty for a future buyer?:(

    BTW, I heard this rumor from a friend that has good sources. I will follow up with my dealer. I have a Spider on order.
     
  10. 911Fan

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    And the silly nav screen.

    Shades of Porsche. 1000 options but you MUST buy the silly nav screen.
     
  11. Perfusion

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    It seems like I read about something new every week that suggests Ferrari's customer relations are circling the drain... How the builder of some of the most desireable automobiles on the planet can be so....so....oblivious to the way to treat people is beyond me.

    From this story, to factory visit near-nightmares, to "getting on the list", it seems like it's always *something*...
     
  12. jeff

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    Like others have said it's on the spider only. I heard/read that this will stop when 125/150 spiders have been sold.
     
  13. nberry

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    Spoke with my dealer and yes it only applies to the Spider and the navigation system is included for another $600.00. The nav system also includes an MP3 player. At that price, it is worth it to me. :)
     
  14. TeamF1Jr

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    Word has it some Maserati's are coming this way too recently. Thats what I heard from Penske/Wynn Ferrari.
     
  15. hardtop

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    Good questions that defy any good answers but here are some theories:

    Warranty: Ferrari offered extended warrantys, but no buyers. Hell at 5900/yr a buyer has to assume the car is crap or, if he/she doesn't think it is crap, pass on it. Evidently most everyone passed, so FNA decided to force sales. Ditto on the nav system which lists for 2471 on the option sheet! Along with the high price, word is that it is a troublesome unit. Sooooo Ferrari has a bunch of units and decides to make spider buyers get them. What the heck, they are already getting great deals! The big question in my mind is why not just make them standard equipment included in the base MSRP?

    Dave
     
  16. 911Fan

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    Nav should remain an option. Let those who want this "feature" pay for it. I have no use for nav in a sports car. Maybe in my minivan...

    The forced warranty coverage is ridiculous. Hopefully there are enough lawyers in the ownership community to take some action and protect the rest of us from this heavy-handedness.
     
  17. ryalex

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    It has been this way since the beginning. This is Ferrari.
     
  18. F2003-GA

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    If someone participate's in legal action they will be struck off on any list. When they go in front of a judge whining about the only car on the planet that is worth more than they paid. There will be no sympathy from the judge.
     
  19. Doody

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    this is just silly - but we excpect nothing less from ferrari.

    my guesses (worth what you paid for them):

    * the nav requirement is 'cuz they overbought and need to clear our their parts stock. or they screwed up purchasing and that's all they had left maybe.

    * the warranty requirement is to placate dealers who probably make 100% markup on the warranty. they want more money out of each sale and this is a crisp way for FNA to do that.

    again, just theories. it'd suck big time for FNA if that additional year of warranty is when everything starts failing!

    why not screw the buyers on the most expensive car with the longest waitlists, right? everybody's going to politely shut the **** up and write the check anyhow. not particularly pleasant of them, but that's never been their forte.

    doody.
     
  20. 911Fan

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    Ferrari is just counting on business as usual. What's needed is for everyone to abandon the silly garage queen mentality and start driving the hell out of their Ferraris. Let them get lots of warranty claims! Are F1 clutch replacements covered? :)
     
  21. Jack(LA)

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    Only if it's a defective clutch and not an abused one. I do know of a clutch being replaced under warranty, but not after 3+ years of driving. But, I like the way you think. :)
     
  22. nberry

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    As one who has a Spider being built, my concern is does Ferrari know something they are not disclosing to the buyers? By requiring the extended warranty only on 430 Spiders, are they anticipating trouble with that model?

    What makes this even more troublesome is a post stated the required warranty would only apply to the first 130-150 Spiders manufactured. Is it possible they know of a problem and the fix but cannot get it into the production system fast enough, thus necessitating the warranty only for those cars?

    This is unsettling.
     
  23. GTB4NART

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    Warranty repairs are getting so expensive for mfgrs. that they are starting to buy insurance policies limiting their warranty liability. Therefore, 125-150 Spyders x $5900 is probably the number needed to satisfy some type of premium. Similar to euro carmakers hedging against the plunging dollar by buying currency market "insurance" on the euro.

     
  24. Casino Square

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    The fact that this is required for the 'first' 150 or so Spyders tells me that there is something wrong with the car. Best to wait until they have produced a few more than that number before taking delivery of yours....
     
  25. hardtop

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    I have 1400 miles on my coupe in 6 weeks. If there are defects, I will find them before 3 years! So far, 0 problems, knock on aluminum!

    Dave
     

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