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  1. abugatti

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    #1 abugatti, Oct 12, 2005
    can anyone help me? i'm looking for any detailed picture of 125s( the very first Ferrari). any one have engine, interior, trunk picture?
    thank you so much!!
     
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  6. abugatti

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    #6 abugatti, Oct 12, 2005
    hi everyone,
    yes i just joined board not long ago, and thank you guys so much for the help!
    yes Vince308, that the car i'm looking for. 1947 125s. the first Ferrari ever made, two cars originally made but i guess they don't exist anymore, only replica does.
    i need some inside pictures of this car, help!....
     
  7. ludo95

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    #7 ludo95, Oct 12, 2005
    yes, the car today is the serial number 90125
     
  8. ArtS

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    #8 ArtS, Oct 12, 2005
    Is that Nuvolari driving in some of those pictures?

    Regards,

    Art S.
     
  9. dretceterini

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  11. ArtS

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    #11 ArtS, Oct 12, 2005
    Jim,

    Should be Rudge not Borrani?

    Art S.
     
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    #12 Napolis, Oct 12, 2005
    Yup. Whats funny is Borrani makes them with the proper logo all you have to do is ask.
     
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    #13 dretceterini, Oct 12, 2005
    Jim:

    Quite frankly, I didn't even look that close. :(
    It was the only site I could find that had any detail shots at all.

    I've now looked through a bunch of Ferrari books I have, and can't find any good detail shots there either.

    Thanks,
    Stu
     
  14. piloti

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    Original wheels were CABO pressed steel with aluminium rims attached by Rudge Whitworth hubs. Wire wheels were always Borranis.
    Nathan
     
  15. Napolis

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    #15 Napolis, Oct 23, 2005

    Nope once again Nathan you are wrong.

    "Now Dr. Stu. The close up of the KO. What's wrong? How do you know it's not original?"

    If Borrani is to be believed they didn't stamp their logo into the KO's until 48 and 002C's 1947 159 engineering drawings, which BTW the way Borrani still has confirm that. When 002C was converted to a 166 in 48 the wheels were widened slightly and the KO logo changed as well.
     
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    Point 1 - "Original wheels were CABO pressed steel with aluminium rims attached by Rudge Whitworth hubs." Proven by photographic evidence. There are well known photos of Enzo sat in the original rolling chassis with CABO wheels on it.
    Point 2 - "Wire wheels were always Borranis." - The Ferrari authorised publication "Ferrari 125" p57 says "In races Borrani wire wheels were always used (the same company which manufactured CABO)" They might not have had the Borrani stamp on the knock-off at that time, but were still Borrani.
    So yet again, I'm NOT wrong.
    Nathan
     
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    #17 Napolis, Oct 23, 2005
    Nathan you remain wrong.

    Here's exactly what you posted including Art's quote:

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ArtS
    Jim,
    Should be Rudge not Borrani?
    Art S.


    Original wheels were CABO pressed steel with aluminium rims attached by Rudge Whitworth hubs. Wire wheels were always Borranis.
    Nathan

    ART WAS RESPONDING TO MY POST ABOUT THE KO's NOT THE WHEELS.

    THE POINT IS THAT THE KO'S ON THE REPLICA 125s, ARE WRONG AND THE KO'S NOT THE WHEELS IS ALL I ASKED ABOUT IN MY QUESTION TO DR. STU:

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dretceterini
    http://www.automodellando.it/images/...5s/page_01.htm


    Now Dr. Stu. The close up of the KO. What's wrong? How do you know it's not original?

    Best

    THE KO's on the 125s and the 159s AS I POSTED, ART CORRECTLY GUESSED, AND AS BORRANI CONFIRMED WERE MADE BY RUDGE, STAMPED RUDGE AND NOT MADE BY BORRANI OR STAMPED BORRANI.

    "They might not have had the Borrani stamp on the knock-off at that time, but were still Borrani.
    So yet again, I'm NOT wrong."

    Borrani says they did not make the KO's until 48. That before then they used Rudge KO's manufactured by Rudge and stamped Rudge. Still think the KO's were:

    "still Borrani." ?
     
  18. piloti

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    Whatever!
     
  19. dretceterini

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    #19 dretceterini, Oct 23, 2005
    as I said earlier, the only reson for the link I posted was to provide some detail shots. I am hardly an expert on what Borrani or Rudge or whatever wheels and KOs should be on the car.
     
  20. Napolis

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    #20 Napolis, Oct 23, 2005
    Stu
    As an aside I was in Turin yesterday and I stayed at a hotel that is in what used to be FIAT plant. There was a parobolic test track on the roof that is still there. Pretty cool.
    Best
     
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    #21 richardowen, Oct 23, 2005
    Does anyone have images of O2C still with its cycle fendered 'tanker' body?
     
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    #24 Michael Muller, Jan 5, 2006
    Franco Cortese at Roma, Circuito delle Terme di Caracalla, 5 June 1947, first race appearance of #02C:

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    10 days later, Circuito di Vigevano, again Cortese:

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    29 June 1947, Varese - Circuito Colle Campigli, Franco Cortese:

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    6 July 1947, Circuito di Forli, Coppa Luigi Arcangeli, finally the master himself - Tazio Nuvolari:

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    13 July 1947, Circuito di Parma, again Nivola, followed by Cortese in #01C:

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    20 July 1947, Firenze, II. Circuito delle Cascine, Franco Cortese:

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    Last appearance with this body, for Pescara a new roadster body was fitted.

    Satisfied?
     
  25. dretceterini

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    #25 dretceterini, Jan 5, 2006
    Interesting series of photos, and they show that the cycle fendered bodies on 001 and 002 were NOT the same. Also interesting is the photo at Parma which shows the Tipo 125 having no grille. I believe the car in the last photo which can only be partially seen is a Pagnini Lancia
     
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