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01-02-2006, 04:06 AM
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my book by Rob de la Rive Box and Mirco Cet (fellow Dutchmen i believe) contains another mistake. 
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01-04-2006, 10:50 AM
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Count Volpi identfys photos shown earlier in this thread
This is Abate at the '62 Targa Florio in the ugliest Tipo 64 ever. Designed by Scaglione, I think. Aerodynamically sound but embarrassing. All over the road, broke down often. (I think this refers to the attached photo GV sent)
I have a color picture of the finned Maserati somewhere but finding it is another matter. The #61 car showing the trademark was the berlinetta 308V at the Le Mans April tests of '66, but we raced in June with an open car. Will try to send you photos if I manage to reduce them. (#61 car shown earlier in this thread) Yes, it is the Cooper Monaco with Balzarini (by the size of the driver). The same car Ferrari copied. (I think this refers to the photos earlier in the thread) Send your readers to http://www.serenissimaautomobili.com/ They'll know its coming. Giovanni
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01-11-2006, 11:44 AM
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While looking for some other photos I came across this one of Count Volpi himself. It was taken at LeMans in 1962. The car is the TR61 currently owned by Ralph Lauren. Please credit David Castelhano Collection.
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01-12-2006, 05:12 AM
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Gary,
could you please thank the Count on my behalf for identifying the cars in my photos? And of course my thanks to you for relaying the information.
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#46
03-30-2006, 10:27 AM
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I would be interested to hear what the Count thought of the other teams/ owners that he competed with on a regular basis
Examples would be: Georges Filipinetti and Scuderia Filipinetti Jaques Swaters of Ecurie Francorchamps John Mecom of Mecom Racing Team, Luigi Chinetti of NART Thanks! Steve
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03-30-2006, 12:38 PM
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I like it because it is so damn ugly!
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03-30-2006, 12:44 PM
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This website says it's a 4-cylinder Tipo 63!! http://www.maserati.org.au/images/Ma...Tipo63_BW1.jpg
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03-30-2006, 12:48 PM
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Link to a photo of the Tipo 63 with the tailfin: http://www.roadmap.ch/sponsorpage/Ve...2004%20101.jpg
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04-02-2006, 10:11 AM
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Reply from Count Giovanni Volpi re: Filipinetti, Swaters, Mecom, Chinetti
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Dear Gary, Here is my sketchy answer to the chat questions. Best, Giovanni I saw in the distance but never met Georges Filipinetti, and only met briefly once or twice his son who later committed suicide. My impression was that Filipinetti went into racing more for PR reasons (he was not the only one doing so) than a passion for cars. When I closed in 1970 the workshop at Formigine, halfway from Modena to Maranello, Alf Francis negotiated and implemented the takeover of the premises by Filipinetti. My connection stopped there. Jacques Swaters is one of the very rare gentlemen and royalty in the old Ferrari world. He was the dealer for Belgium, Netherlands, and Luxemburg since Maranello started selling, he knew Enzo Ferrari well and was realistic about him. Very close to Gerolamo Gardini (about whom there still is unjust factory silence), Maranello’s sales manager who ‘made’ Ferrari as much and no less than his boss. Swaters had a conscience, he was always fair play and of course a credible competitor. I have only good memories of him along with total respect. Never met John Mecom. De Tomaso knew him. We all thought Luigi Chinetti was Gardini’s twin. They both whispered when you were talking to them, to the point one had to often make them repeat. An anecdote tells that when one day the two ‘schemers’ went together to negotiate with a certain client, after having strained his ears for quite a while the client, annoyed and nonplussed, threw them both out of his office not having understood a word of what they were saying and meant with their mumbling. Chinetti and Gardini understood each other perfectly and Chinetti always implemented Gardini’s policy aimed at creating a fever about the cars and controlling with an iron hand the second-hand market, which was not so easy at the time. A used car was an old car. Never a collector’s item, as I said in a previous chat. Chinetti invented NART out of a relatively small garage on Manhattan’s 10th avenue, if I remember. The main purpose of NART was marketing in the US, and in so doing Chinetti provided amateur clients with cars they bought tied to a sure entry into races such as Sebring, Le Mans and minor US contests. Along with that Chinetti has some kind of first-refusal on Ferrari team cars of the previous year and was sometimes loaned same-year cars for ‘discoveries’ such as the Rodriguez brothers, the formidable Dan Gurney and other American continent drivers. It was also a way for Maranello to field more cars at low cost. Chinetti and I somewhat collided at Sebring 1960. He had entered in GT the swb Californias. Shortening wheelbase makes a new car and only a few had been made. We made them go into ‘sports’ (later prototype) category. Chinetti was hopping mad the cheating had gone wrong, mainly because, I think, the swbs were driven by slow clients who had been almost guaranteed to win the class. We got it, instead, with my personal steel bodied lwb California (car 16) driven by Scarlatti-Serena-Abate (Abate’s lwb berlinetta dnf) on Firestone normal road tires made of cheese, bought in a hurry at the local dealer, which we had to change every very few laps. I don’t remember, but I think the swbs came in behind us. This little episode is longer and quite funny also in its consequences but there is not enough space here. Anyhow, Chinetti was a pillar of Ferrari. It was the slow rich clients and their many crowding friends in the pits who made NART look strange at time. That was in the late ‘50s and ‘60s. ---------------- Gary speaking: below are photos of some people mentioned above Abate with flowers Scarlatti w/TRi 1961 Serena at Sebring in #16 1960 LWB California Dan Gurney, Targa 1963 Count Volpi circa 1961 mounting an F100F two-seat Super Sabre at Aviano Air Base, Italy. Last edited by CDM; 04-02-2006 at 10:12 AM.
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#55
04-02-2006, 10:51 AM
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The Gurney in the Porsche photo is fantastic!
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04-02-2006, 02:14 PM
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Excellent post Gary.
Some interesting answers there to some good questions. I posted a couple of pics the other day in Davids' ongoing "More Photos" thread. I believe they are Abate driving the Breadvan at Brands.Here they are to add to the recent pics.
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04-02-2006, 02:56 PM
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I have owned about 15 Alfa 102s or 106s in my lifetime, but I have not had one in about 7 or 8 years...
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04-03-2006, 06:29 AM
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makes me proud to be belgian! thank you for sharing these thoughts. most interesting point of view on (imo) the most interesting race scene of them all. care on telling us some more interesting side notes on mr Bizzarrini and his development on the 'breadvan'? once again, thank you for these most interesting insights
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04-03-2006, 06:53 AM
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Breadvan 2819 GT now belongs to a German dealer in Wuppertal. Marcel Massini
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