F50 pre/post production cars?

There were a number of cars built before and after the official 349. The ones before were a mix of prototypes and prep-production cars mainly for the Sultan of Brunei, most of the post production cars were also meant to go to him. Most didn't make it there though, by the time the cars were made, Jeffri (the guy buying the cars, the Sultans brother) had other things to worry about (the billions of $$$ he stole from the country of Brunei)

Here is a post-production car for sale. There is no difference between these (and the pre production cars) and the official 349

http://tinyurl.com/bsq37

 

Not really a prototype here, but I thought this photo might interest some people. Maybe someone else has more angles of this too.

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Did the post-production cars have the plaque saying the number out of 349 or was it just not there at all?

 

Probably no plaque

 

I can see how my question could've been read like that. I was getting at if there are plaques, maybe a possibility of a few having the same numbers. Maybe even the VIN, who knows.

Does barchetta.cc have a list of known F50 VINs and colors? I can't seem to find it on their site.

 

He was joking


I have the vins. I haven't actually counted them all but there are about 25 (give or take)

 

it looks like it's got F40 wheels on it

 

I have counted 402 cars. I know one of the Sultan's F50's does have a plaque stating that it is the first production F50. I have seen a photo of it; but don't know which S/N the car is. I would guess 99999?

 

I thought that #001/349 is s/n 103097, but that's the Belgium Jean "Beurlys" Blaton car, which was for sale last year or so. There were at least 6 "pre-production" cars made prior to #001, plus the s/n 99999. As you know, there are multiple cars with s/n 99999. From memory, I also think that one of them went to the Sultan, but I'm not sure about it ...

Note: are you sure about the 402? I thought that there were 11 (or so) pre-production cars, and around 13 post-production cars, plus 3 F50 GTs. I know that the lists that I have are not up-to-date, but I was always thinking about 380 cars or so. Where did I go wrong??

 

Hi Edvar,

I could well be wrong about the S/N number on the Brunei car, it was just a guess. The photo of the plaque affixed to the tunnel ahead of the gear lever says something along the lines of "the first F50". The 402 comes from Marcel Massini's FML articles which listed 368 cars with S/N's plus another 30 cars with details but no S/N's. Then there are the 3 extra 9999's not in the article plus an additional Brunei car also not mentioned giving a total of 402.
Marcel would undoubtedly know the correct number.

Maybe it was 102852, which is the earliest of the Brunei cars from Marcel's earlier post?

 

Just guessing, but what about s/n 102902 or 103033, both meant for the Sultan, but finally ending up at the Marconi Museum in California? I've seen the two F50s over there, but haven't checked the cars for their s/n or other details ...

The 30 cars listed by Marcel are F50s where the s/n is (or was) unknown, but that doesn't mean that those car are additional cars. Many of the cars which were unknown by the time of writing, are currently KNOWN. For example, John McCaw's F50 is 104092, Mark Rand's car (Azzurro California) is 103921 and so on. So, I guess we shouldn't count those 30 unknown cars ...

 

I suppose it would have been better to say a "possible total" of 402 cars. I thought there may have been some duplication in the list at that time.
So if you now have a current and complete S/N list, what is the exact F50 production? 380?

 

I don't have an up-to-date list of the F50s, so unfortunately I can't answer the question. Also because I thought that some of the post-production F50s mentioned in Marcel Massini's list happened to be incorrect. Or to say it more correct: there have been other Ferraris spotted with the same serialnumbers. But I have to dive into my archives for more details ...

 

Thanks anyway Edvar. It would be interesting to see exactly how many there are considering Ferrari have traditionally made more of the Super Car series (288, F40, F50, Enzo?) than they announced to the world.

 

Just counted, i have 3 serial #'s for prototypes, HOWEVER, i belive 5 cars wore the serial # 99999, so i'm guessing 7 prototypes, then i have 7 pre-production cars and 12 post - production cars

So, there you go, 375 F50's

 

Hello to all,
interesting thread here !
in the japanese magazin Scuderia no.25 is also a s/n list report from Marcel Massini.There are listed 16 post-production F50 with details and non....but for serial number 107525 and 107550 i have both car as US 355 Spider's MY'97.(and confirmed by Ferrari dealer's).
It remains 14 other cars......
regards
ivo

 

All very interesting. It would seem that the correct number is 375 +/-

 

One of the sultans F50 is offered at german mobile.de since years...

http://www.mobile.de/cgi-bin/da.pl?sr_qual=G&top=8&bereich=pkw&id=11111111139832072&