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348 ecu removal & chip removal

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  1. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Before I start I would like to thank Eric (3forty8) for sending me a set of replacement chips for my car, and for posting a how-to http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=306424

    However, even though Eric's instructions helped I did run into some frustration getting the pin block out. So I figured I would post another thread, with some added tips, to help out the next 348 Brother to tackle this job.

    Oh yeah, and I did wait over a YEAR after I got the chips to F I N A L L Y put them in. Yeah I know, I know I'm a lazybutt.

    Anyhow here is the how-to.
     
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    #2 ernie, Jan 10, 2012
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    First thing you are gonna want to do is disconnect the battery. After you have disconnected the battery slide your seat all the way forward, and tip the back forward also. This will give you access to the ecu cover.
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    That is how you remove the ecu from a 348, Stooge style.
     
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    #13 ernie, Jan 10, 2012
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    Now with the dowel no longer locking the clip, I could pinch it to release the board. BE VERY CAREFUL when you do this. You DO N O T want to scratch the board.
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    I placed my fingers under the board and pressed up until the posts popped out of the retainers, releasing the board on both sides.
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    Now came the pain in the ass part.

    These retaining tabs, on both sides, are what hold the pin block to the connector. And there is a certain way you need to hold them in order to get the pin block to come out. This took me the better part of half an hour to figure it out. I did not want to break anything, cause if I did I would have been screwed.
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    So here is how I got them out.

    First you have to slide 2 screw drivers inside to keep the tabs held open. And yes you need to do this on both sides at the same time. I'm sure there are "proper" tools for this, but I'm a Stooge and used what I have.
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    With the screw drivers holding the tabs open slide another screw driver in the slot right next to it, and press down, so that the tab goes into the slot on the side keeping it held open. Make sure the top screw driver stay wedged in place, or the tab will pop back into its original groove.

    Like I said, a pain in the ass if you have no clue why the pin block won't come loose.
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    If you look closely you can see the other hooks that hold the pin block to the top of the connector. You can see a little notch an the left top side, and one on the right, next to the tip of the screwdriver. You will also notice that the top row of pins are now pressed closer to the second row of pins, and the tab is open and held down in the notch via the top pressure from the screwdriver wedged in place.

    So....with the top screwdrivers wedged in place, you need them wedged in place on both sides, keeping the top pressed down on both sides, AND keeping the side tabs open and down in the notches, you can remove the side screwdrivers that were holding the tabs open, and NOW.....you can pull the pin block out.

    Remember you need to have this done on both sides, at the same time, in order for the pin block to come out.
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    There are 2 slots in the chip retaining cover that you use to remove it. It the first picture, I inserted a small screwdriver into the slot, and then I moved the top of the screw driver to the left, so that the bottom opened to the right, to pop open the hook on the bottom of the cover. Then just do the inverse to the opposite side, and remove the cover.

    In the second pic you can see the hooks that hold the cover in place.
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    #21 ernie, Jan 11, 2012
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    Now I know there is a proper tool for removing the chip, but I was too lazy to go and buy one, so.....I used Eric's technique of GENTLY sliding a screwdriver under the chip, and lifting the chip up. As I lifted one end a little I slid the screwdriver in further, and then GENTLY twisted it, so that the head of the screwdriver would push up on the bottom the chip. That way I was lift off the chip "evenly". I know, I know, I should have gone and bought a proper chip removal tool, but hey, what do you expect from a Stooge.
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    Then I CAREFULLY pressed in the new chip Eric sent me. I was careful to MAKE SURE all the pins were in the holes before I pressed in on. I did have to nudge some of the pins a little bit to get them in the holes, but once then were in I gently, and slowly pressed the new chip in place, and then reinstalled the ship retaining cover.
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    That is how you replace the chip in a 348 Motronic 2.7 ECU,..........Stooge Style.

    Again a BIG thanks goes out to 3forty8 (Eric) for burning me a copy of the chips, and for posting the first thread on how to change the chips. Thanks a Bunch Eric!
     
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    You might want to share how to make sure the chip is oriented correctly in the socket - maybe you put yours in backwards? :D Quick, fire her up and let's find out, lol!

    Well done, the pics and explanation how to remove the top layer circuit board are much clearer than my thread.
     
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    #25 ernie, Jan 11, 2012
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    OH SNAP!!!

    VERY GOOD POINT Eric, thanks for reminding me! Good looking out.

    Okay as Eric pointed out you need to have the new chips oriented in the proper direction. If you look at these pictures of the old chips (with the white sticker on them) you will see a notch on the left side of the chip. When you install the new chips make sure you have the notch in the new ones installed facing the same direction as the old one. The notch faces away from the little red thingamajig. You can see the notch a bit better in the second pic.

    As just for your information smartass, I did fire up the car today, let it go through the warm up parameters until the fans kicked on, and took it for a nice 36 mile drive. It ran MUCH better. I had two different chips in my ecu's. One was the 497, and the other was a 410. But now it has matching brains thanks to you. No more bipolar issues. :D Thanks again Eric.
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