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  1. ernie

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    #1 ernie, Feb 22, 2014
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    It's STOOGE TIME!

    This thread it to show you guys how I did the engine out major on my 348, using two floor jacks to get the engine out of the car.

    The last time I did the major on my car was 10 years ago as of this post. But the belt actually had about 9 & 1/2 years on it. I pushed the belt change to the very limit just because I wanted to see how long I could go before it HAD to be changed. I am NOT recommending people do this, I just did it for MY OWN curiosity. So I waited until I HAD to be changed, and it indeed did.

    Two things happened.
    1) The bearings for the cam belt where going bad. I could here them squeal at start up.
    2) The water pump failed.

    This is going to be a long thread, so go get yourself a cold one, and enjoy the show.
     
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    #6 ernie, Feb 22, 2014
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    Loosen the clamp holding the two secondary air injection hoses, to the bottom front corners of the air box, and disconnect them.
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    #11 ernie, Feb 22, 2014
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    Now it was time to get the car in the air.

    I positioned the floor jacks under the car right around where the door closes, on both sides. Looking under the car, I had lift point of the floor jack right at the end of the lip on the bottom. You'll see what I'm talking about when you have a look under there.

    Yes the bottom of my car is tweaked, as I have lifted it up many, many, many times from this area.
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    I didn't take pictures of my lifting the front of the car, but here is where I put the jacks stands under the front of the car once I got it in the air.

    I lift both the front and back of the car so I have plenty of room to move around when disconnecting the shift linkage.
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    #15 ernie, Feb 22, 2014
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    Here is a pic I do have of me removing the gas tank shield from the bottom of the car. I do this so that the cables have more room to move out of the way when the engine is coming out.
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    Now that the car is in the air, and safely secured with jack stands, I removed the rear wheels.

    Word of caution. DO NOT leave the floor jacks holding up the car. If one of the pumps fails it can collapse and CRUSH you. So BE SURE to use jack stands to support the car.
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    Now remove the fender liner/splash guard, and set it aside. I mocked this part up because I have ben driving my 348 for some time now without the liners in place.
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    To help I drain faster I remove the expansion tank/radiator cap and set it aside. This creates a vent and the coolant will flow out better.
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    With that done, I moved to the little half radiator on the other side of the car, just above the oil cooler, and opened the drain plug for it.
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    The I loosened the clamp holding the drain hose to the expansion tank. The hose runs from the expansion tank to the cross over piping under the plenum.
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    #25 ernie, Feb 22, 2014
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    After the oil lines drained for a while I covered them with a couple of lunch baggies, and some rubber bands, to try and help them from leaking all over the place. I did this on the oil line at the reservoir tank, and at the oil cooler.
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