0202 A – Bought on Ebay - Long Lost Even-Numbered Comp Ferrari Found

Sadly no Ferraris there these days.

The Western Bagel is the giveway, it's still there!
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Will Ferrari Classiche be doing the work and engine restamping?

 

ROTFLMAO! That would be HIGHLY unlikely.....*cough* IMO only, of course........thanks for that though.....

 

original engine still exists !!

Same owner since the mid 60's, traded a refrigerator for it!!!

I have seen it !

It will eventually be reunited with the car.

Patience.

 

How is construction of the body proceeding? Any pics? Many thanks.

 

What was the name of the guy who took over Sal's shop? I remember it being a generic "Italian car repair" shop in the early 1990s. At that time there was also another generic Italian car repair shop almost directly across the street (about 1 block further south, on the same side of the street as Western bagel)....

 

Not a lot ?

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=209551

An Allemano 5000 GT failed to sell at Monterey with a high bid of 320,000. Estimate was 600,000 to 800,000.

 

I thought they would be going for more, as a Maserati 5000 GT, 103.004 was sold at RM's Amelia Island auction on Saturday March 8, 2003 for $495,000

 

I haven't look at this thread in a long time and I see things now that I didn't understand before. In one post Marcel Masinni describes this chassis as being highly modified. It almost looks like what's left of the original isn't much more than the two parallel tube frames. Maybe what Tom saw is that these tubes are not round but oval suggesting an early Gilco construction.Going from round to oval was one of the first modifications Gilco made to the original Colombo design. Most noticable of the missing whould be the the central X member probably welded fish mouth tubes with supporting cross members at the center of the X. Also missing are the tube frames outside the main tubes as well as the front and rear suspension supports. Without the central X etc there must have been considerable twist flex in the frame even with the two cross tube supports which are definitely not original. It would be interesting to know if the two parallel main tubes showed evidence of the missing noriginal constructions. just one man's opinion tongascrew

 

Stu, ,Sal sold his shop to Claudio Zampolli of Cizetta (sp?) fame. I don't think Claudio stayed there very long; he was too much of a promoter to stay in such a backwater location.

 

Thanks, that's who I was thinking of.

 

Claudio seen at the beginning of this

edit: won't let me embed the video for "i can't drive 55" which claudio is at the beginning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfNATuw1DRs

 

Ed,

Was it Claudio that took care of Ken Starbird's Comp Daytona?

Jeff

 

Bruno Borri (Now retired in Peru, where Raquel came from).

 

In Gioachino Colombo's book: "Origins of the Ferrari Legend; Memories of the Designer of the Earliest Ferraris" (english version published in 1987) he included photos of his original blueprints for the prototype 125 S which clearly show the oval profile and Gilco was the frame constructor from day one:

"...For the chassis I devised a trapezoidal form, made up of spars with a central crossbar, and ovoidal sections. I used the experience of a firm which specialised in the making of tubes in special steel. GILCO autotelai, belonging to Gilberto Colombo, my namesake (to whom I was not, however, in any way related)..." (pg. 19)

 

Hi, you are correct. The original Colombo drawings did call for an oval tube design. The first chassis delivered was considered to heavy [5o+ kilos]. Gilco came up with a design using a different and larger tube stock which when stretched produced an eliptical shape of only 1.5mm thickness which brought the weight down in the area of 40 kilos. Thank you for correcting me. I will try to be more careful in the future. just one man's opinion. tongascrew

 

Maybe there is some hesitation on rebodying 0202 as a Vignale spyder. It was actually born and raced at Le Mans by André Simon and Lucien Vincent (#14) as a coupé before being sold to Masten Gregory and Devin through Ernie McAfee. By Vignale indeed but definitely a coupé, as shown on page 52 of the essential Fitzgerald and Merritt. The spyder #12 then entrusted to Rosier and Trintignant was 0196. Maybe the confusion may come from that same masterly book, same page 52, where a photo of Jim Kimberly's spyder 0204 is captioned as "probably one of the 1952 Le Mans cars".

By the way 0196 has already been given a replica of its original Vignale spyder bodywork a few years ago in the UK.

 

Incorrect information

Factory records as well as the Ferrari factory (recently) have reconfirmed the car was a Vignale Spyder

 

I'm afraid you're mixing up some S/N's. One reliable source of information can be found here: http://home.planet.nl/~fer340am/home.html. Have a look under the results chapter.

 

0202A
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Tom, how is the restoration progressing?

 

Waiting to get the original engine, negotiations continue.
Going on for quite sometime, complicated and expensive.

Most parts have been acquired, ready to scan another vignale spyder body

There is forward movement

 

Glad to hear Tom, this is a great story that has yet to be completly written......