0302 found in Venezuela

This explains why in Christie's catalogue of the Monaco auction the car was given serialnumber "0306TF".

 

Hi Bart,

We discussed this before.
From the history of 0304TF and 0306TF Quintano´s car should be 0306TF, the Bonomi car... that´s my opinion.
Of course I am open to read different opinions.

kind regards.
Cris.-

 

This gets more interesting by the moment. Curioser and curioser, as Alice would say ;-)

 

These are the pictures Bart was refering to.
His credit.

Regards.
Cris.-
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You sure can! Note that the numbers have a very different type font and certainly have not been stamped by the same man on the same day (despite the quantity of wine)!
Regards, Bart

 

Christies Geneva 22 May 1997 had the car as 0304TF in the cataloque. The Christies guys were not amused when I suggested the car was more likely 0306TF.
Does anyone know what type of chassis frame these cars are supposed to have, flat or bend-up rear end?
Regards, Bart

 

Yes, there is something under the exhaust! But I have no idea what it is. It is 13 years ago and I did not see it when I took the picture otherwise I would have investigated further.
I sent the pics in 600dpi to you gmail address.
Regards, Bart

 

Dear Bart,
This is the catalogue description of 26 May 1987.
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Boudewijn
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All 3 numbers are of a different style.

 

Seems like the logical conclusion so far.

 

Hi, if you send me copies I will see they get out there. Send to George Burgess 71 Pike St. Tewksbury, Mass. 01876 U S A. Great stuff. thanks much tongascrew

 

The 304/306 stampings certainly look more genuine than the 302 one.I suppose there may have been slight lettering differences in the stamps used at the time. Yes let's have some of the experts way in. What ever, this is a rare oportunity that doesn't come up often these days to see three s/ns being uncovered. Keep the ball rolling here. Thanks to everyone involved. just one man's opinion tongascrew

 

Some additional information: According to the marvelous book by Cris Berschi on the Argentine Ferraris the last argentine owner of 0304TF, Ernesto Dillon, sold the car without engine to Italy around 1962 to bring in a Ferrari 250 GT, whereas the last trace of 0306TF was also in Italy when the car was used by Bonomi in some italian events never to return to Argentina.

 

Thanks Boudewijn for your comments.
That´s what Dillon Jr. told us but at that time he said he had no pictures, etc.
We must have to believe him.

Regards.
Cris.-

 

Does anyone know who manufactured or supplied Ferrari (or was it Gilco?) the original serial number stamp dies used on the early chassis? I'm wondering if a forensic look at the characteristics of "genuine" serial numbers with the exact same period tooling would help shed light (or help confirm) which chassis is which. Perhaps even in other non-Ferrari Gilco serials?

Please pardon me if I'm watching too much "CSI". I'm just fascinated by this mystery!

 

I have said it before and will keep saying it: there are far more renumbered/double numbered cars out there than many people realize. It will also be very difficult - or even impossible - to fully understand how the numbers of these cars were rotated. There may be too many moving parts in this puzzle. It would, however, still be very interesting to find out if there is yet another stamping under that exhaust.

Without Branko we would have much less information. Well done!

Best wishes, Kare

 

I agree totally

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