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Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by Napolis, Jun 27, 2006.

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  1. Gramps

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    #651 Gramps, Jan 2, 2010
    The web site has a mixture of test and race photos. Just look at the galleries over the pits, just a few people missing for the race weekend.

    Gramps
     
  2. ferrarip4

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    #652 ferrarip4, Jan 3, 2010
    I was aware of that.

    The person who took the pictures categorized them in 3 portions: 1 for the Wednesday trials: http://picasaweb.google.com/jyhelbe56/1967ESSAISMERCREDI24HEURESDUMANS#

    1 for the thursday trials: http://picasaweb.google.com/jyhelbe56/1967ESSAISJEUDI24HEURESDUMANS# . This is where jim posted this picture of 0854 in the stands: http://picasaweb.google.com/jyhelbe56/1967ESSAISJEUDI24HEURESDUMANS#5375664532293443698 (hence the fewer people).

    1 finally for the race: http://picasaweb.google.com/jyhelbe56/196724HEURESDUMANS# where I posted the picture of 0854 racing: http://picasaweb.google.com/jyhelbe56/196724HEURESDUMANS#5376053883564390914

    Best.
     
  3. Gramps

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    #653 Gramps, Jan 3, 2010
     
  4. ferrarip4

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  5. modena1_2003

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    #655 modena1_2003, Jan 4, 2010
    This is indeed one of the best threads in FerrariChat...

    What a project Jim, well done.

    How "authentic" will this be in the eyes of Ferrari or a Judge at Pebble?


    _J
     
  6. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #656 Napolis, Jan 5, 2010
    Original chassis, engine gearbox, and body. Third OA at Spa. You tell me.
     
  7. Randy Forbes

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    #657 Randy Forbes, Jan 5, 2010
    I wanted to refer him back to the title of this thread, but it was your call ;)
     
  8. Napolis

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    #658 Napolis, Jan 9, 2010
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    #659 Enzo Anselmo Ferrari, Jan 9, 2010

    It's look like.... art!!! :)
     
  10. modena1_2003

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    #660 modena1_2003, Jan 10, 2010
    So I imagine she is no targa-top in the traditional sense, and there isn't one piece that simply pops into place to maker her a Coupe. What original bits are you using in order to carry out such an extensive project? Who is doing the bodywork?

    I understand the name of the thread, my uncertainty is in weather or not a body-off restoration makes a car "original."

    Converting a previously roof-less Ferrari into the Coupe form which it was originally, in my ignorant opinion, seems only like a second conversion; one however, that would allow for an "original" look.


    _J
     
  11. moriaan1

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    #661 moriaan1, Jan 10, 2010
    Jim, thanks for sharing the experiences.

    These cars are fragile!
    Respect for the men who drove them flat-out on the Mulsanne-straight!
    They had guts!

    Any idea on the weight of the bare chassis?
     
  12. Napolis

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    #662 Napolis, Jan 10, 2010
    0854's original coupe body tail is what's being reinstalled. The Spyder tail that was previously affixed was never original to 0854 but was 0858's Spyder Tail affixed after the 1967 racing Prototype season ended not by Ferrari. At that point Ferrari had converted P4
    0858 into 350 Cam 0858 and having no futher use for 0858's original P4 Spyder tail sold it.
     
  13. modena1_2003

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    #663 modena1_2003, Jan 11, 2010
    Clear as a bell. Thanks Jim.



    _J
     
  14. Napolis

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    #664 Napolis, Jan 15, 2010
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    We're mounting new tires on 0854's original wheels.

    Note how these wheels were originally painted Gold but were over sprayed Blue later to distinguish them in the Pits from the other P cars wheels and tires.
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  15. Ferraripilot

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    #665 Ferraripilot, Jan 15, 2010
    Gold wheels look just awesome on these cars. The look compliments several of the 60s and 70s models also. I saw a Daytona with gold wheels and more recently, a Dino. Both looked fabulous.

    Looking awesome Jim
     
  16. Napolis

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    #666 Napolis, Feb 5, 2010
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    After careful research we learned that at Brands Hatch the wheels were only painted blue on their rims and that the previous owner of 0854 had them wrong so we restored them to their proper colors.
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  17. modena1_2003

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    #667 modena1_2003, Feb 5, 2010
    These are the things I love hearing!

    Your doing so well Jim, I bet you've got a great team!


    _J
     
  18. Aardy

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    #668 Aardy, Feb 14, 2010
    Careful research ?? But 0854 came at BOAC 500 with entirely BLUE wheels...
     
  19. Napolis

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    #669 Napolis, Feb 14, 2010
    Nope. We thought so to but we have an original color photo taken during the race that shows gold centers as it had at the previous race. As the side window is broken out it has to be during the race.
     
  20. Aardy

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    #670 Aardy, Feb 14, 2010
    So, you are saying 0854 only use gold wheels with blue rims during all the BOAC 500 race ?
     
  21. wpbekker

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    #671 wpbekker, Feb 14, 2010
    I think one can assume that there were more sets of tyres and wheels available for this car during the race. In an old footage about the BOAC 500 0854 came along with entire blue wheels prior to the race. Another picture shows the blue/gold wheels. I like the entire blue wheels the most.
     
  22. Aardy

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    #672 Aardy, Feb 14, 2010
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    Yes, 0854 came to the BOAC 500 with blue wheels.

    And there were several sets of wheels, like 1967 Le Mans 24 hours (entire blue, gold with blue rims) or like 1967 Spa (entire gold wheels, P3 gold wheels etc etc)

    I prefer too the entire blue wheels...
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  23. Napolis

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    #673 Napolis, Feb 14, 2010
    They probably had several sets and one set was all blue and one set was blue rim and gold center. Maybe rains were one way and drys another. I'm also thinking of going with SPA livery as that was her most successful race.
     
  24. Aardy

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    #674 Aardy, Feb 15, 2010
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    As I said, at Spa, on 0854, wheels were all gold painted and P3 all gold wheels were also used on rain. Never saw a pic showing blue rims or blue wheels on 0854 at Spa.

    Only 0850 had all blue P3 wheels on rain at Spa...
     
  25. Napolis

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    #675 Napolis, Mar 2, 2010
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