0854 Back to Original Coupe

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  1. ted walker

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    Steve I only live 40 miles away. !!!!!!
     
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    #1452 tomgt, Aug 4, 2016
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    That berlinetta nose is different on 15 october 1967 1000km paris to the FOC UK meeting, Prescott when in maranello concessionaires livery on 3rd september 1967.
    What I think is that the original berlinetta front and rear clip were copied in GRP and used during the Paris 1000km in 1967. Nose changed because no slot and different air scoops left and right.
    That new grp body perfectly matches with the Kyalami 9 hour berlinetta body (also in grp)
    But Jim found green paint on the nose of 0854...so that contradicts the above the body at Paris was in grp.

    Piper sold the car as a spyder in 1969 but not with the complete original berlinetta body of 0854, used the spyder tail 0858 (which he bought from Hawkins together with more P4 parts) (note there is no extra slot, above the vertical post under the ferrari logo 0854 had at Le Mans, Spa and Brand Hatch, 0856/0858/0860 had two slots)

    Jim did you open the slot on the nose of 0854 during restoration?
    The original rear clip (see photo) is the same as on 3rd sept 1967 FOC Prescott, with that "9" and not the boac '9"

    barchetta.cc: 67 - Barchetta that is incorrect. This car was never a barchetta in 1967.
    p408549brands67rearbodyzv6.jpg
     
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    #1453 bs76, Aug 4, 2016
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    Hi all,

    I'm very late in this thread..but here are some pics from the 1968 Norisring race at the so called "paddock"...Acquired some years ago...from my own private archive...
    David Piper's 250 LM was also present...

    best wishes,
    BjörnS
    IMG_0194.JPG
    IMG_0195.JPG
    IMG_0196.JPG
     
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    thanks, can you scan those and repost?
     
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    I will try..but I'm very busy so it will took some time...

    By the way...I can add another race entry for 0854 with Can Am Spyder body...
    1969
    17. August
    Wunstorf airport race, germany
    race Nr. 56
    driver: Hans Hermann
    DNF

    I have hundert of negatives from this airport race..
    So I will look and post a photo when I'm back home...

    best wishes,
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    #1456 bs76, Aug 4, 2016
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    here is a first pic from a race report in the german magazin "auto, motor and sport"...
    The nose of the car was damaged...

    best wishes,
    BjörnS
    IMG_0197.JPG
     
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    #1457 tomgt, Aug 4, 2016
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    Solituderennen 1969

    Alfa Romeo T33/3 Coupe, Nino Vaccarella
    Ferrari 412P, David Piper
    Porsche 908/02, Gerhard Koch

    Photo: Kurt Wörner
    Schermafbeelding 2016-08-04 om 21.43.06.jpg
     
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    #1458 tomgt, Aug 4, 2016
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    by searching google
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    #1459 tomgt, Aug 4, 2016
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    ...
    0854 412P history.pdf
     
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    #1461 tomgt, May 20, 2017
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    1968
    gunnarpettersson-21.jpg
     
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    Just wanted to make clear to anyone reading the above that it is not true. The 1967 F1 engine and P4s have different cylinder blocks with the P4 block having a higher deck height for the longer stroke.
     
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    Does anyone have a clear picture of the vin tag/plate of 0854?
     

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