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  1. Nintendo64

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    Quali. all over the place as track damp, Marc went max attack as usual, FFS look who is 2nd. obvs. everything is all out of sync.

    Rossi having issues

    My boy is 8th

    1. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 47.512s [Lap 6/7] 314km/h (Top Speed)
    2. Karel Abraham CZE Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 48.275s +0.763s [6/7] 304km/h

    3. Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 48.278s +0.766s [7/8] 312km/h
    4. Danilo Petrucci ITA Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP17) 1m 48.908s +1.396s [6/8] 314km/h
    5. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 49.008s +1.496s [5/8] 303km/h
    6. Maverick Viñales ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 49.218s +1.706s [7/7] 306km/h
    7. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 49.272s +1.760s [8/8] 310km/h
    8. Aleix Espargaro ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 49.323s +1.811s [7/7] 307km/h
    9. Loris Baz FRA Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 49.630s +2.118s [3/7] 306km/h
    10. Alvaro Bautista ESP Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP16) 1m 49.724s +2.212s [8/8] 312km/h
    11. Jonas Folger GER Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)* 1m 49.825s +2.313s [7/7] 306km/h
    12. Andrea Iannone ITA Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 50.725s +3.213s [7/7] 307km/h

    Qualifying 1:
    13. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17) 1m 49.488s 306km/h
    14. Johann Zarco FRA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)* 1m 49.916s 311km/h
    15. Scott Redding GBR Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP16) 1m 50.048s 314km/h
    16. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17) 1m 50.310s 310km/h
    17. Jack Miller AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 50.319s 311km/h
    18. Pol Espargaro ESP Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16) 1m 50.673s 311km/h
    19. Bradley Smith GBR Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16) 1m 50.676s 305km/h
    20. Tito Rabat ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 50.910s 312km/h
    21. Hector Barbera ESP Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP16) 1m 51.058s 313km/h
    22. Sam Lowes GBR Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)* 1m 51.199s 306km/h
    23. Alex Rins ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)* 1m 52.340s 308km/h
    Read more at MotoGP Results - MotoGP Argentina - Full Qualifying Results
     
  2. Aircon

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    Poor Lorenzo.... My heart bleeds
     
  3. Nintendo64

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    $10 million earn says he does not care :)

    I am sure he will come good in time, he has hardly ridden the Duke, and as much as we all hate him, he does know how to ride.

    Only the Aussies can jump on a Ducati and not seem to have any issues, figure that out?
     
  4. Aircon

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    Bulldust.... He cares alright
     
  5. Aircon

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    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/855870435639959552/vid/1280x720/oEMvZ_J2xBqrTaF4.mp4

    Lorenzo back....maybe?

    1 93 Marc MARQUEZ SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 332.6 2'02.741
    2 25 Maverick VIÑALES SPA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 336.2 2'02.871 0.130 / 0.130
    3 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 336.4 2'03.673 0.932 / 0.802
    4 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 343.5 2'03.866 1.125 / 0.193
    5 5 Johann ZARCO FRA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 335.2 2'03.928 1.187 / 0.062
    6 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Ducati Team Ducati 341.6 2'04.151 1.410 / 0.223
    7 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Ducati Team Ducati 340.4 2'04.431 1.690 / 0.280
    8 94 Jonas FOLGER GER Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 334.7 2'04.623 1.882 / 0.192
    9 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW GBR LCR Honda Honda 332.6 2'04.661 1.920 / 0.038
    10 45 Scott REDDING GBR OCTO Pramac Racing Ducati 339.1 2'04.673 1.932 / 0.012
    11 29 Andrea IANNONE ITA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 333.7 2'05.741 3.000 / 1.068
    12 43 Jack MILLER AUS EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda 337.2 2'05.970 3.229 / 0.229
     
  6. Nintendo64

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    My guy is LAST :-(

    No, not Miller, as in last last, top ten is going to need a miracle.
     
  7. Aircon

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    Well that could have been contentious!

    1 25 93 Marc MARQUEZ SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 157.9 43'58.770
    2 20 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 157.7 +3.069
    3 16 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 157.6 +5.112
    4 13 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW GBR LCR Honda Honda 157.4 +7.638
    5 11 5 Johann ZARCO FRA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 157.4 +7.957
    6 10 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Ducati Team Ducati 157.1 +14.058
    7 9 29 Andrea IANNONE ITA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 157.0 +15.491
    8 8 9 Danilo PETRUCCI ITA OCTO Pramac Racing Ducati 156.9 +16.772
    9 7 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Ducati Team Ducati 156.8 +17.979
    10 6 43 Jack MILLER AUS EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda 156.8 +18.494
    11 5 94 Jonas FOLGER GER Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 156.8 +18.903
    12 4 45 Scott REDDING GBR OCTO Pramac Racing Ducati 156.2 +28.735
    13 3 53 Tito RABAT SPA EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda 156.1 +30.041
    14 2 8 Hector BARBERA SPA Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 156.0 +31.364
    15 1 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SPA Pull&Bear Aspar Team Ducati 154.0 +1'06.547
    16 38 Bradley SMITH GBR Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 153.1 +1'22.090
    17 41 Aleix ESPARGARO SPA Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 137.4 2 Laps
    Not Classified
    22 Sam LOWES GBR Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 153.9 10 Laps
    44 Pol ESPARGARO SPA Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 150.1 12 Laps
    76 Loris BAZ FRA Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 155.8 13 Laps
    25 Maverick VIÑALES SPA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 155.7 20 Laps
    17 Karel ABRAHAM CZE Pull&Bear Aspar Team Ducati 150.6 20 Laps
     
  8. Aircon

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    Valentino Rossi hit out at MotoGP rookie Johann Zarco after he was forced wide when the French rider attempted a pass in the Grand Prix of the Americas.*

    Rossi ran off track and re-joined ahead of Zarco, who remained in fourth place on the Monster Tech 3 Yamaha, but slightly closer to Marc Marquez in front.*

    The Italian rider received a penalty of 0.3 seconds to be added at the end of the race, which was the amount of time he gained by straight-lining the corner.*

    Race Direction said Rossi could have avoided the penalty*if he had backed off by the same amount, once he returned to the track.*


    The 38-year-old, who eventually finished runner-up behind Marquez, felt a penalty was 'not right' given he didn't trigger the incident.*

    But while Rossi could also accept the punishment purely in terms of gaining time, he had strong feelings on the cause of the incident itself, stating 'the problem is Zarco'.*

    “For me it is not right because I have two choices. We do like this, or we touch and we crash. But I hear the penalty is for gaining advantage and 0.3 is OK, but for me the problem is not Race Direction, the problem is Zarco,” Rossi said.*

    “He is always very fast and rides the bike very well, he has great potential, but this is not Moto2 and if you want to overtake you have to overtake in another way. He always arrives too much in the line and for me, he has to stay more quiet.”*

    Rossi was unaware of the penalty during the race and revealed afterwards that his team decided against putting the information on his pit board because he had already opened a big enough gap over Dani Pedrosa by the final laps.*

    “It's always very difficult because at the end we don't have any communication and you have to see just on the board. My team wait and when I overtook Dani, I was able to take a good gap in the first two sectors – one second – so they say it is not important.*

    “If you put on the board 'penalty, 0.3', maybe when I pass I see 'penalty 3' and maybe it is seconds or tenths, and I push at the maximum on the last lap for take more advantage and I can do some mistakes, so for me they make the right decision.”*

    In the post-race press conference, race winner Marquez said aggressive riding was part and parcel of MotoGP.*

    “The penalty, 0.3 or 0.2, is not much. Of course I see the action and it was aggressive, but in the end, and in the beginning, everybody is pushing 100 per-cent. I'm an aggressive rider, Valentino is an aggressive rider and we also overtake in the past very strong, and we will overtake in the future really strong,” said Marquez.*

    “So if you're aggressive and you overtake strong, you need to understand that the other riders are aggressive and it's always like this – it's racing. Yes it was tight and aggressive, but he didn't gain nothing, Valentino.”*

    Pedrosa was made aware that Rossi had picked up a penalty via his pit board. But the Repsol Honda rider said he was not in a position to push any harder after his tyres went off and admitted the exact nature of the 'penalty' was also unclear to him.*

    “I only saw on the board 'penalty' but anyway at that time I couldn't really do anything else because I was fighting with my tyre, but 0.3 penalty I don't think it is necessary to know unless I was there fighting for last lap attack to the last corner.*

    “I only saw penalty and I didn't know which type of penalty it was: if it was ten seconds or one position, so it was like it was. But communication: I think if you want to communicate with the board, you can, but sometimes you don't see exactly what is showing on the board.”*
    Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/244892/1/rossi-the-problem-is-zarco.html#WZBTMj2KztI82BXA.99
     
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    1 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 276.2 1'51.648
    2 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW GBR LCR Honda Honda 275.2 1'51.650 0.002 / 0.002
    3 43 Jack MILLER AUS EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda 274.5 1'51.807 0.159 / 0.157
    4 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Ducati Team Ducati 278.7 1'51.830 0.182 / 0.023
    5 93 Marc MARQUEZ SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 276.4 1'51.962 0.314 / 0.132
    6 94 Jonas FOLGER GER Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 275.8 1'52.249 0.601 / 0.287
    7 41 Aleix ESPARGARO SPA Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 274.8 1'52.350 0.702 / 0.101
    8 9 Danilo PETRUCCI ITA OCTO Pramac Racing Ducati 276.9 1'52.353 0.705 / 0.003
    9 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Ducati Team Ducati 280.2 1'52.359 0.711 / 0.006
    10 25 Maverick VIÑALES SPA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 276.6 1'52.555 0.907 / 0.196
    11 45 Scott REDDING GBR OCTO Pramac Racing Ducati 278.0 1'52.684 1.036 / 0.129
    12 29 Andrea IANNONE ITA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 272.7 1'52.834 1.186 / 0.150
    13 5 Johann ZARCO FRA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 276.5 1'52.917 1.269 / 0.083
    14 44 Pol ESPARGARO SPA Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 275.4 1'53.102 1.454 / 0.185
    15 38 Bradley SMITH GBR Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 274.1 1'53.204 1.556 / 0.102
    16 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 273.3 1'53.263 1.615 / 0.059
    17 76 Loris BAZ FRA Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 270.6 1'53.375 1.727 / 0.112
    18 22 Sam LOWES GBR Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 272.0 1'53.752 2.104 / 0.377
    19 53 Tito RABAT SPA EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda 273.3 1'53.885 2.237 / 0.133
    20 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SPA Pull&Bear Aspar Team Ducati 276.9 1'54.087 2.439 / 0.202
    21 12 Takuya TSUDA JPN Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 270.6 1'54.316 2.668 / 0.229
    8 Hector BARBERA SPA Reale Avintia Racing Ducati
    17 Karel ABRAHAM CZE Pull&Bear Aspar Team Ducati
     
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    1 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 285.6 1'39.420
    2 43 Jack MILLER AUS EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda 283.9 1'39.964 0.544 / 0.544
    3 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW GBR LCR Honda Honda 285.3 1'40.045 0.625 / 0.081
    4 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Ducati Team Ducati 288.7 1'40.291 0.871 / 0.246
    5 9 Danilo PETRUCCI ITA OCTO Pramac Racing Ducati 286.5 1'40.378 0.958 / 0.087
    6 25 Maverick VIÑALES SPA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 284.0 1'40.379 0.959 / 0.001
    7 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SPA Pull&Bear Aspar Team Ducati 288.2 1'40.392 0.972 / 0.013
    8 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Ducati Team Ducati 288.5 1'40.428 1.008 / 0.036
    9 41 Aleix ESPARGARO SPA Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 283.1 1'40.479 1.059 / 0.051
    10 44 Pol ESPARGARO SPA Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 287.3 1'40.573 1.153 / 0.094
    11 45 Scott REDDING GBR OCTO Pramac Racing Ducati 285.7 1'40.639 1.219 / 0.066
    12 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 285.7 1'40.698 1.278 / 0.059
    13 94 Jonas FOLGER GER Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 285.7 1'40.773 1.353 / 0.075
    14 93 Marc MARQUEZ SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 284.2 1'40.915 1.495 / 0.142
    15 5 Johann ZARCO FRA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 285.7 1'41.019 1.599 / 0.104
    16 29 Andrea IANNONE ITA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 285.2 1'41.165 1.745 / 0.146
    17 53 Tito RABAT SPA EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda 282.2 1'41.165 1.745
    18 38 Bradley SMITH GBR Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 283.9 1'41.432 2.012 / 0.267
    19 12 Takuya TSUDA JPN Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 280.8 1'41.887 2.467 / 0.455
    20 22 Sam LOWES GBR Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 282.2 1'41.905 2.485 / 0.018
    21 17 Karel ABRAHAM CZE Pull&Bear Aspar Team Ducati 285.7 1'41.909 2.489 / 0.004
    22 76 Loris BAZ FRA Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 280.2 1'42.515 3.095 / 0.606
    23 8 Hector BARBERA SPA Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 289.0 1'42.630 3.210 / 0.115
     
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    Qualifying

    126Dani PEDROSASPARepsol Honda TeamHonda290.71'38.249293Marc MARQUEZSPARepsol Honda TeamHonda290.71'38.2980.049 / 0.049335Cal CRUTCHLOWGBRLCR HondaHonda290.81'38.4530.204 / 0.155425Maverick VIÑALESSPAMovistar Yamaha MotoGPYamaha291.71'38.6770.428 / 0.224529Andrea IANNONEITATeam SUZUKI ECSTARSuzuki290.71'38.7440.495 / 0.06765Johann ZARCOFRAMonster Yamaha Tech 3Yamaha290.91'38.8610.612 / 0.117746Valentino ROSSIITAMovistar Yamaha MotoGPYamaha289.61'38.9080.659 / 0.047899Jorge LORENZOSPADucati TeamDucati293.31'38.9100.661 / 0.002994Jonas FOLGERGERMonster Yamaha Tech 3Yamaha290.71'39.1080.859 / 0.1981043Jack MILLERAUSEG 0,0 Marc VDSHonda289.91'39.1250.876 / 0.0171145Scott REDDINGGBROCTO Pramac RacingDucati292.21'39.1520.903 / 0.0271241Aleix ESPARGAROSPAAprilia Racing Team GresiniAprilia288.41'39.4001.151 / 0.248
     
  14. Aircon

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    Good luck reading that :)
     
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    Ducati 3rd,good job.

    Bloody Jack trying to pick a fight with Bautista,DH,that'll cost him.
     
  16. Aircon

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    Dumb move!
    Lorenzo will be relieved.
     
  17. AKA

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    Certainly is a bit of a hot head.

    And Lorenzo does in 4 races what Rossi took a season and 4 races to do.

    Okay, that sounds a bit too mean, but good on Lorenzo.



    With Rossi's poor result, your Vinales prediction is looking better and better, but Marc seems to be still willing to hold back when he needs to.


    Also, I was happy that Zarco backed off too, I obviously didn't think he was going to.
     
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    To the tune of $1500
     
  19. Aircon

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    Just so silly!
     
  20. Nintendo64

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    You cannot compare riders/bikes of the current season against those of the past seasons, makes no sense

    The only fair judge is to compare against your own team mate at the same time, unless of course most of your team is against you anyway [i.e.] Eddie Irvine style

    Rossi does not have to and will not push, the others do and will, so it's going to be difficult for him to win a world championship riding like that, not impossible [Hayden, Roberts Jnr etc] just more of a hurdle
     
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    I agree, it was my easy way to get a dig in at Rossi, and not really fair.
     
  22. Aircon

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    Why have a dig at Rossi? Tall poppy syndrome?
     
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    Being contrary seeing everyone loves him, but I really do like him for the most part.
     
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    lol...funny bugger
     

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