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  1. tomc

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    It's March, time to start contemplating the upcoming year.

    Following on Phil's post in the 2016 NFL thread, the rumors I hear most often for Romo are

    Denver - do they essentially push back the development of Lynch and Siemian by a couple years? They'll be at or near end of rookie contracts by then and as big unknowns as the bullet they stuffed named Brock!

    Houston - this makes some sense, but Romo will not be cheap, and then they'll have the most expensive backup in the league. Friends I talked to in Houston were fixing it, but I'm guessing that might be more disaffection with Brock than love of Tony. As for Savage, friend told me that local sport radio said concern was that he was injury prone. If that's the case, then Romo has to be a major worry. Is Houston's offensive line any good?

    Arizona - Fitz is coming back, but what do they do about Palmer? This would make a good soap opera to spice up the tedious off /pre season!

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  2. TexasF355F1

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    I can't believe the number of idiots that want Romo. I'd love to have him if healthy, but he's way too fragile at this point to take a chance.

    You forgot about where Adrian Peterson will end up.
     
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    I'm wondering why it is taking JJ so long to decide what to do with Romo.

    As for AP, there's talk here in Boston about the Pats picking him up as a replacement for Blount. He'd have to take a lot less money, but there is the lure of it's his best chance to get a ring. Personally I think it is a real long shot.

    BTW, thanks for starting this thread Tom. I don't follow any of the other major sports except for maybe during playoffs.
     
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    Knowing JJ, he'd like to milk this for all the ink and clicks he can get.
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    I think that's part of it, but he also loves Romo wants him to get the best deal. Ultimately, Romo will retire a cowboy .
     
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    If NE gets Peterson, look out......if he can stay healthy.
     
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    Palmer announced he is coming back, so Arizona will roll with him this year.

    IMO, they are no threat with Palmer as their QB. Good regular season QB, but rotten when the stakes are high (ie playoffs)
     
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    As an NFL GM, would any of you take a chance on Romo? As said above...he will not be cheap.
    Talk is $14 million.


    Denver took Peyton Manning. He won a SB at Indy. He won a Super Bowl at Den and then retired. So it worked out.

    Less than half the teams QBs played the whole year last year.
     
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    Peyton was a safer bet, imo.
     
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    Houston Texans have proven they're no good with money management!
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    LOL.

    Hell, if they gave Brock 17 mill per, Romo is a bargain at 14 and a MAJOR upgrade.
     
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    31 mill is a lot to tie up in one position. Does anyone know if Texans have any big free agents to be?

    Hmm.

    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/houston-texans/

    Assuming Willfork is coming of books, I'm guessing Bouye is due a big bump in salary? Maybe Demps?

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    That was their stupidity to sign Brock to begin with.

    I compared the Brock situation to Rob Johnson, back in the mid-late 90's - Johnson was a back-up in Jax (I think it was Jax) and played a few decent games in relief of the injured starter....so what to the Bills do? They sign him to a large contract, and guess what...he stunk and flamed out of the league 1-2 years after that.
     
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    There was a lot of discussion about that today on the sports radio. The consensus was he probably wouldn't be a good fit. Firstly, Blount only costs $1 mil and no way AP would play for anything close to that. Secondly, there could be game plans where he only gets 5-10 touches in a game, would he stand for that? And thirdly, if he puts the ball on the ground one too many times, he'll sit on the bench the rest of the season! :D

    On a side note, there was also talk of Brandon Marshall. Overall the thoughts were there was even a less chance than AP coming here.
     
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    Broncos have $50 million cap space. Need an offensive and defensive line, a middle linebacker.

    Supposedly defensive linemen are available in the draft. Maybe a MLB. Offensive linemen can be had in the open market. Will be interesting to see if the Broncos go after QB. Kubiak liked Lynch and Simeon. Will be interesting to see how the new coaching staff approaches these issues.

    Has a coach who has never been a Head Coach ever won a Super Bowl? I would be surprised indeed.
     
  19. TexasF355F1

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    How can you justify Romo though with his extensive injury history? He will get hurt and miss games this season, if not the entire season again.

    And I'd love to sign him, but it's a terrible idea to tie up even more money for a very short term long shot.
     
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    That's the first thing I thought when NYJ cut him, was the NE would sign him.

    I think he would take a pay-cut for a SB ring, and I agree that AP would not.
     
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    No (assuming you mean "has a rookie head coach ever won a SB").

    Jim Harbaugh was probably the closest.
     
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    Is there a better option than Romo? Houston isn't in rebuilding mode, they are built to win now (especially with that defense).

    Hell, they were actually in that playoff game vs NE WITH Brock (but definitely not due to Brock)
     
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    Rationally? You can't. But, for a team that believes it has a narrow window of opportunity for a Super Bowl, they may roll the dice.
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    I guess in the next 24 hours we will know, but I'd bet Romo will sign with the Texans. I think that is the best option for him personally. Obviously Houston is a little hamstrung to carry two high priced QB's, but then Elway probably wouldn't make Romo an offer he couldn't refuse.
     
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    #23 TexasF355F1, Mar 9, 2017
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    No ****ing way:eek:
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    Don't know who I feel more sorry for.
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    Wow, is there no end to how dumb the Browns brain-less trust can be?
     
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    It's actually scary how inept they are. :eek:
     
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    Are you guys kidding? Browns management on top of their game...with this move they are a LOCK to double, maybe triple their win total from last year,
     
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    Ask me if I give a flying ****. Okay, OB, it's your turn to step up. Either put or shut up.
     
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    Who's OB?!?
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  32. AceMaster

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    I thought that too initially but they are getting a second round pick. Brock is the freebee
     
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    Lmao at the Texans.

    They give away a draft pick with their QB. Translation: please please please take Brock off our hands, at any cost.

    Looks like Brock should have stayed in Denver.
     
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    Bill O'Brien

    Yes, but they do have to pay him his 19 mil, or whatever it is. Although I do believe they are well under the cap and can afford it.
     
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    You think he'd have beaten out Siemian? Kid was tough behind a marginal O line.

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    Got it. Thanks.

    I thought Kessler was promising in spots last year. Despite getting his bell rung and being on his back a lot of the time. I don't get this. Jackson is a quarterback whisperer, so maybe he thinks he can resurrect Brock's career?

    Maybe he's a one year fix until Hue can pry AJ McCarron from Bengals? That doesn't make much sense, he's gotta start winning a few games or he'll be run outta town. The honeymoon don't last long anymore.
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    Browns made a very good move after *much* analysis:

    They RECEIVED a 2nd round pick for Osweiler, not GAVE ONE away.

    $17/mill cap hit they can easily take for this year, and Osweiler's contract runs out after this year. Worst case scenario he's a Brown for just this year and could be a so so bridge QB.

    Word on the street is that the Browns are possibly looking to move Osweiler, so imagine if they did so for even a 3rd or 4th round pick.

    They could end up netting a 2nd and 3rd round pick for free simply by "flipping" Osweiler.

    Pretty damn crazy.

    Even if they have to eat some dead money to do it (which I'm not sure they need to do).
     
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    Ted Johnson was pining for McCarron this week. He's looked pretty competent filling in for the red head.
     
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    Arguably, he looked better than Brock when he filled in two years ago. That playoff game notwithstanding. Hard to believe that with all their draft picks that Cleveland couldn't pry McCarron loose. Then they'd have someone who is familiar with Hue's schemes.
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    #39 PhilNotHill, Mar 12, 2017
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    Browns now say if they can't trade Brockweiller they will cut him. Scratching my head. :eek:

    By canning RG3 they save $7 million and pay Brockweiller $17 million. So they paid $10 million for a second round pick. When is CLE going to draft an all-pro? Hope springs eternal. :D

    So HOU got rid of Brock so they would have cap space for Romo. They will need a medical insurance policy that covers pre-existing conditions. And a good hospital. ;). Who is their backup quarterback? Weeden? :eek:


    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000792045/article/winners-and-losers-from-the-brock-osweiler-trade
     
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    This trade gets stranger by the minute. Will be interesting to see who takes a flyer on Brock. You have to figure that if the Browns ain't desperate enough, who's next?
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    Denver has an opening for a waterboy. :D
     
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    Is he qualified?!?
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    Job description is "must have no personality, no leadership skills, and throw a game ending 4th quarter interception".

    Sounds like free agent Jay Cutler fits the bill :D
     
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    Go back to where it all started.
     
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    That'd brighten up a dull preseason. Can Brock displace Trevor or Paxton?
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    ?

    I'm talking bout Cutler.
     
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    Cutler? Forgot he stated there. They got enough headaches at quarterback without taking on another.
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    Thought you may have forgotten that. It was a very long time ago.
     
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    Nobody running hard to sign AP......
     
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    And that's the problem with losing franchises today.
    NO patience.
    Look at winning teams today - most coaching staffs have been together
    awhile, that's why we see basically the same teams in the playoffs year after year,
    GB, Sea, NE, Pitt, KC and others with front office staff that does a good job, such as Den.

    Now go look at the teams that missed the playoffs, most of those teams have
    coaching staffs or front office (GM) in turmoil, and some teams cannot afford to
    keep all the 'stars': Indy, Phil, Wash, Buff, Mia, LA rams, LA Chargers, Clv, NO,
    TB, Jax, SF and so on.

    History has shown any RB over 30 USUALLY is done, the list is LONG.
    It's like they hit a wall. Look at how many yards AP got before he got hurt, it
    was like 2.1 yards a carry. He's done, after maybe one upcoming lackluster year
    in TB.
     

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