500 Superfast, the Royal Ferrari

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  1. carvad

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    #1 carvad, Feb 6, 2012
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    I propose to start a personal thread for 500 Superfast.
     
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    The 330 GT Registry lists 6265 and 6269, no 6267 in between.
     
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    Model plate of this 500SF.
    Ferrari 500 Superfast #6267SF  18-05-01.jpg
     
  6. Marcel Massini

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    Not 8459 SF.
    This is 6661 SF, which was the first of two 500 Superfasts sold new to Jack Durlacher.
    This photo was taken after Durlacher had sold it, the license plates "JJJ 9 D" are the ones of the second owner George Tsakiroglou, a shipping tycoon in Chios, Greece but resident in England.

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    Wow! Thank you so much Boudewijn. I was looking for model plate image long time
     
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    As always Mr. Massini can clarify any point for Ferrrari history. Thank you so much.
     
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    Superfast & Superamerica?
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    On the SA - there were a couple done with this body and 250 motors. I believe one was a 250 SWB with this body.

    During the late 1970s one this body with a 250 was in southern California. Kidd's, I think.

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    John posted very interesting images. First shot was taken at the 1964 London motor show if I am not mistaken. In that case it's first RHD 500 Superfast, s/n 6345 SF. Car was fully destroyed in an accident (what year?) and no longer exist.

    I hope Mr. Massini can confirm or clarify this info.

    And what the strange "thing" under rear window??
     
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    This photo was not taken at the London Motor Show where 6345SF was shown and also not at the London Motor Show in 1965 where it was shown.
     
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    Boudewijn, thank you for clarification. At what motor show this shot was taken in that case? And what s/n is shown at the photo?
     
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    I have 6345 as the 64 London Show car. I agree it is not this car in the picture, because it was originally red/black. It was written off in 1967 by the second owner.

    However I have 6679 as the 65 London Show car. It could well be this car in the picture. It was originally Nocciola/Beige VM3309.

    Also it does look rather like Earls Court to me.

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    I think it might be an electric light to illuminate the interior?

    Are you sure? I think it looks like Earls Court although I don't have any pictures to compare to hand. The pillars look like Earls Court anyway!

    Jonathan

    EDIT: Mark beat me to it...
     
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    #20 Boudewijn, Feb 8, 2012
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    Yes, I agree, 6345SF was probably the 1964 Show Car. This is the photo. That leaves 6679SF indeed as the car in the photo.
    Ferrari 500 Superfast #6345SF  11-01 London Motorshow 1964.jpg
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  22. Marcel Massini

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    6345 SF was destroyed on the 2nd February 1967 in a collision on the highway A2 near Peterborough, UK.

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    That's not very likely since the A2 doesn't go anywhere near Peterborough. It was on the A1 in case anyone cares (and I know Marcel likes to be accurate on these things!).

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    Jonathan, thank you. You are absolutely right, of course. It was a typo from my side or maybe fat fingers, who knows. It was on the A1 (not on the A2). My sincere apologies.

    The 6345 SF wreck was broken up with some of the remains going to Jack Pierce/JAP Engineering, the original engine #6345 SF (internal #42/SA) was later installed in a 275 GTB and then later temporarily installed in 500 Superfast chassis #6661 SF.
    William Tompkins, who was killed in that accident, was a farmer resident in Northamptonshire, he had been the second owner of 6345 SF, the first one being Dr. Richard S. Wilkins.

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    In the post with the pictures of the SF and SA, the SF is a series 2 based on the fender vents.

    Regards,

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    #25 Marcel Massini, Feb 9, 2012
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    This is 6043 SF, the ex-Lord Hanson Superfast, taken at Castle Schwetzingen (Germany) on the 6th July 2002. It was shown at the Schwetzingen Concours by then owner Edgar Schermerhorn of The Netherlands, today it lives in Palm Beach, FL.

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    A disguised race car...
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    #8253SF. Montreux, Switzerland, april 1990.
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    It brought a nice result at the Maranello auction in 2009. Lovely car.


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    Is it a photo from road-test by USA magazine? Which one?
     
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    Just a photo from a french magazine.
     
  32. carvad

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    Which one? Would love to read this article
     
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    It is the most original 500 Superfast on the planet and currently sitting in my garage here (I am just the babysitter, not the owner), waiting to be driven in an exclusive tour from Monaco via France and Switzerland to Italy, this coming April.

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    Is interior at this example differ from other cars?
     
  35. Marcel Massini

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    No.
    It is LHD although the original owner was from the UK but he kept it for a long time at Pininfarina in Torino and everytime when he travelled from the UK to Italy he used the Superfast on Italian roads.

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    The magazine was not very interesting. Just a short article with one or two photos. I did not keep the magazine.
     
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    #36 Marcel Massini, Feb 9, 2012
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    This is 6303 SF undergoing restoration in Southern California 2004.

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    #38 Marcel Massini, Feb 9, 2012
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    This is the interior of #6303 SF, taken in August 2004.

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    #39 kvisser, Feb 9, 2012
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    Here are a couple of photos. Perhaps they can be better id'ed by someone more knowledgable.

    The first shot was taken at Grand Touring in Laurel Maryland. They now are relocated and named at DEW Motors in Reston VA. Great crew of craftsmen and enthusiasts.

    the other shots were taken at Amelia Island back in 07. I had the pleasure of running into Marcel there as well.

    regards

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    #40 Marcel Massini, Feb 9, 2012
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    Thanks, very nice pix. Photo 2 (chassis #4031 SA), photo 3 (chassis #3949 SA) and photo 5 (chassis #4251 SA) are not 500 Superfasts but rather 400 Superamericas. Photo 4 shows chassis #8565 SF, a 500 Superfast. May be I will see you again this year at Amelia? It's only 4 weeks until that fabulous show starts! Can't wait to escape the current snow and ice and minus -20 degrees Celsius in my country.

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    The same interior as to 6661 SF (exept the radio) but different from 6043 SF
     
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    s/n 7817 SF in french magazine Auto Passion #105 (january-february 1996)...
     
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    Cyril, thank you for information
     
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    Hey Marcel,

    thanks for the ever pleasant corrections. I need to get my spotter goggles on better.

    As for Amelia, I do hope to come down again. It all depends on that all important conversation with the wife! With GTO's hitting the greens, I really, really want to go.

    I hope to see you there.

    warm regards

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    #45 Marcel Massini, Feb 9, 2012
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    Here is 6041 in Los Angeles 2002.

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    7975SF in 2007.
    Ferrari 500 Superfast #7975SF  18-01 2007.jpg
     
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    First time I've seen the photo of the 7975 SF, thank you
     
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    Thanks for that little insight, Marcel. I can see you sitting there with a glass of wine admiring it. :)


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    Found in another thread (about Peter Sellers):

     
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    #50 Marcel Massini, Feb 10, 2012
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    Taken at DK Engineering, UK.
    See also the color photographs on pages 142 to 149 of the book "Ferrari - Le Stradali", authored by Sergio Massaro, with photos by Giancarlo Reggiani, published by Ediauto in Guidizzolo/Mantova, Italy, October 1992.

    Also, 7975 SF was color featured in the Italian magazine "Auto Capital", issue of December 1992.

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